28-11-2021, 11:12
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Just more proof showing the French lack of care on this matter
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It has no relevance to us here as they come to us from France and the French actively help them along
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Of course it has relevance, if neighbouring transit countries blocked people from leaving their countries then they wouldn’t enter France. Ergo they wouldn’t enter the U.K.
The problem with this is that blame gets passed from transit country to transit country until you reach the country of origins direct number. Therefore people will look for the easiest target to blame in this case the French.
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28-11-2021, 11:14
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Re: Britain outside the EU
So what? It is the French fault so many try to cross the channel. You your very self conceded how wrong it was for the Police to stand watching.
Ultimately we need to change our policies and give them nothing
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28-11-2021, 11:21
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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So what? It is the French fault so many try to cross the channel. You your very self conceded how wrong it was for the Police to stand watching.
Ultimately we need to change our policies and give them nothing
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Like I said before there are bad apples in every barre. You’re very misguided if you think that’s a representation of the entire French police and border forces.
What do you think that people who enter this country are given ?
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28-11-2021, 11:24
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Like I said before there are bad apples in every barre. You’re very misguided if you think that’s a representation of the entire French police and border forces.
What do you think that people who enter this country are given ?
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And I think you are being very naive giving them the benefit of the doubt
To much as they keep wanting to come
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28-11-2021, 11:26
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Like I said before there are bad apples in every barre. You’re very misguided if you think that’s a representation of the entire French police and border forces.
What do you think that people who enter this country are given ?
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they're not given the bill.
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28-11-2021, 11:30
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Re: Britain outside the EU
I keep telling the Remainers -the French are the enemy and Macron is perfidious.
There is no solution without the French giving ground.
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28-11-2021, 11:31
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Re: Britain outside the EU
Actually, you keep telling everybody…
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28-11-2021, 11:34
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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I keep telling the Remainers -the French are the enemy and Macron is perfidious.
There is no solution without the French giving ground.
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If we made it horrendous for them to stay here they would not want to come here. Problem nowadays we would see hordes of people crying human rights but I bet you not many of them would take the migrants in and look after them if asked to
If seeking asylum give them a tent in a field. If they truly are escaping something then anything is better
Just for reference I do not blame the people wanting better lives. I blame the polices in place making this the attractive place for them to come to
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28-11-2021, 11:57
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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I keep telling the Remainers -the French are the enemy and Macron is perfidious.
There is no solution without the French giving ground.
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You keep telling yourself that dear, meanwhile back in the real world, most of the civilised world know that generating positive outcomes requires cooperation rather than division.
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they're not given the bill.
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So, what are they given?
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And I think you are being very naive giving them the benefit of the doubt
To much as they keep wanting to come
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And to you, what are they given ?
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28-11-2021, 12:00
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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You keep telling yourself that dear, meanwhile back in the real world, most of the civilised world know that generating positive outcomes requires cooperation rather than division.
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So, what are they given?
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And to you, what are they given ?
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And I will repeat too much as they keep wanting to come
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28-11-2021, 12:01
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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And I will repeat too much as they keep wanting to come
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So, you have no idea what they receive. Sounds like a reasonable position to base your argument on.
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28-11-2021, 12:20
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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So, you have no idea what they receive. Sounds like a reasonable position to base your argument on.
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I am not arguing I am just posting my opinion
I know what benefits they receive and from research I know they like to come here because they can get cash in hand work. Apart from that I have no idea what else attracts them to this country but if I did I would say take it away
Thing is mate I have already posted what they get and was then pulled up for cutting and pasting from el gov site to which I quite gleefully replied that it was a copy and paste you cannot cut from government website and so on. I know there is a lot to look through but you are just asking questions I already responded to earlier
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28-11-2021, 12:36
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Originally Posted by Jaymoss
I am not arguing I am just posting my opinion
I know what benefits they receive and from research I know they like to come here because they can get cash in hand work. Apart from that I have no idea what else attracts them to this country but if I did I would say take it away
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You're going to take away their family already here and their ability to speak English, neat trick
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28-11-2021, 13:08
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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You're going to take away their family already here and their ability to speak English, neat trick
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Least I am not being extreme right and saying lets just sink the boats or shoot em innit
Just make it less attractive to them so they do not want to come here that is all it needs. Now finding a way of doing that is a job for a better paid man than me
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28-11-2021, 13:09
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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I am not arguing I am just posting my opinion
I know what benefits they receive and from research I know they like to come here because they can get cash in hand work. Apart from that I have no idea what else attracts them to this country but if I did I would say take it away
Thing is mate I have already posted what they get and was then pulled up for cutting and pasting from el gov site to which I quite gleefully replied that it was a copy and paste you cannot cut from government website and so on. I know there is a lot to look through but you are just asking questions I already responded to earlier
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When I say argument I mean your debating position.
And as said above a great many are travelling here due to their having family already in the country, such as the first identified victim In last weeks drownings
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