14-11-2021, 20:00
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Re: Climate Change - sea level rises.
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy
China mined the most coal ever recorded in a day recently, over 12 million tonnes or more energy produced in a day than Ireland uses in a year.
I look at things slightly differently and am glad we as a nation are leading the way despite inconveniences for all of us, we are after all the world's biggest polluters overall and as the first industrialised it falls on us to be the first to step away from the brink
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Yes, we are leading the way, but your second comment (emboldened) puzzles me. Clearly, we are responsible for very little pollution worldwide these days, so were you thinking about our contribution to pollution since the industrial revolution?
Even so, I would have thought the countries like China had already exceeded what we churned out back in the day.
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She should go back to school and learn about stuff like the rest of us had to.
Students are renowned for protesting about things they know nothing about. She needs to go back to studying.
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14-11-2021, 20:46
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Re: Climate Change - sea level rises.
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
Oh dear. Such virtue signalling, if followed, will lead the UK up Schmitt Creek nix paddle.
1. China/India will take commercial advantage and eat more of our lunch than they are already doing.
2. Our very own people will be beggared beyond belief.
And for no reason other than to stick Boris' chest out. Ridiculous.
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Facts aren't virtual signalling, from the industrial revolution till now we are one of the world's biggest polluters, you might not like it but that doesn't change that fact nor does it change the fact that we knew what we were doing, scientists warned us at the turn of the last century and we ignored them but tbf I could see why, there were no alternatives and no other choices, there are now and I'm pleased we are leading the way. If you want to cut down the size of China's portions I'd suggest you stop buying crap from them, like everyone else you don't really need it anyway.
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14-11-2021, 21:50
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Re: Climate Change - sea level rises.
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy
Facts aren't virtual signalling, from the industrial revolution till now we are one of the world's biggest polluters, you might not like it but that doesn't change that fact nor does it change the fact that we knew what we were doing, scientists warned us at the turn of the last century and we ignored them but tbf I could see why, there were no alternatives and no other choices, there are now and I'm pleased we are leading the way. If you want to cut down the size of China's portions I'd suggest you stop buying crap from them, like everyone else you don't really need it anyway.
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Facts are facts. The particular facts that you then signalled have become virtue signalled facts.
If we "lead the way":
1. We'll be short of electricity;
2. We'll be unable to afford to heat our homes;
3. China & India will jump straight in to manufacture what we can't;
4. Unemployment in the UK will shoot sky high.
Anybody who says we must lead the way hasn't thought the consequences through properly.
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14-11-2021, 22:15
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Re: Climate Change - sea level rises.
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Originally Posted by Maggy
Too many I’m okay jacks in the world. Until their home is flooded or falls into the sea
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Don’t buy a house in a valley next to a river, or on the coast. Let’s face it you’ve been warned for the last 50 yrs at least.
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14-11-2021, 22:43
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Re: Climate Change - sea level rises.
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Originally Posted by Pierre
Don’t buy a house in a valley next to a river, or on the coast. Let’s face it you’ve been warned for the last 50 yrs at least.
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And what would you say to those nations that are already significantly affected such as small island states ?
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
Facts are facts. The particular facts that you then signalled have become virtue signalled facts.
If we "lead the way":
1. We'll be short of electricity;
2. We'll be unable to afford to heat our homes;
3. China & India will jump straight in to manufacture what we can't;
4. Unemployment in the UK will shoot sky high.
Anybody who says we must lead the way hasn't thought the consequences through properly.
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I’m sure fears that may hold some similarities were held at the turn of the industrial revolution and in terms of employment there were significant increases in opportunities for both skilled and unskilled workers.
Change is inevitable .
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15-11-2021, 00:47
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Re: Climate Change - sea level rises.
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
Facts are facts. The particular facts that you then signalled have become virtue signalled facts.
If we "lead the way":
1. We'll be short of electricity;
2. We'll be unable to afford to heat our homes;
3. China & India will jump straight in to manufacture what we can't;
4. Unemployment in the UK will shoot sky high.
Anybody who says we must lead the way hasn't thought the consequences through properly.
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like what, what do we manufacture here, Patrick Minford has already told you what little is left needs to be sacrificed for brexit as for the rest if your post, I don't think it need be like that at all
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15-11-2021, 10:46
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Re: Climate Change - sea level rises.
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Except it didn’t take 45 minutes - that’s the time you were in the air, between two airports. If you add transit time between your home and the airport, and the airport and your destination, and check in/baggage collection time, how long did the journey really take?
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Well it was business so only hand luggage, we had priority boarding and got there as directed by the airline (1-1/2 hours), as it was a very early flight we had paid breakfast.
At the other end it was leave the plane and the airport.
It was still quicker than getting a cab from my town to the station in Stevenage, plus the train station didn't have any decent food at 6am, nor somewhere warm to wait.
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15-11-2021, 18:45
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Re: Climate Change - sea level rises.
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Originally Posted by ianch99
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It is sad but predictable that so many would rather criticise a teenager who is trying to do something instead of discussing what they themselves can do.
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Predictable becasue its true ? Shes a loud, but clueless teenager.
Maybe she should think about producing less hot air (after all, it is CO2).
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Greta Thunberg has called the climate summit a "failure" and a "PR exercise".
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and yet ...
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However, Thunberg has avoided getting into the detail of what action should be taken, saying "it is nothing to do with me".
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You could not make it up.
Some of the other protesters are even more clueless.
Stop using (all) fossil fuels now is just a ridiculous suggestion.
Unless of course you want to live in a cold cave, and hunt for your own food.
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15-11-2021, 18:54
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Re: Climate Change
It's the way things are now, everybody can put forward an argument for NOT doing things that are suggested, but nobody comes up with an alternative suggestion.
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15-11-2021, 20:14
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Re: Climate Change - sea level rises.
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Predictable becasue its true ? Shes a loud, but clueless teenager.
Maybe she should think about producing less hot air (after all, it is CO2).
and yet ...
You could not make it up
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I am not sure you understand the principle of activism. She is trying to raise awareness of the urgent need to make changes at a global level. She has suggested various actions that can help including a 3-part documentary on the issue and how you could start to address it: https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Greta_Th...ange_the_World
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Greta Thunberg: A Year to Change the World is a three-part documentary series following the climate change activist Greta Thunberg from August 2019 to late 2020, when she was aged 16–17. She travels North America and Europe, hearing experts talk about the complex and diverse effects climate change has had, including damage to forests, the retreat of glaciers, ocean acidification and flash flooding. The series also explores methods to combat climate change such as carbon capture and helping wetlands and mangroves to flourish, but finds that such solutions cannot be rolled out fast enough to be the only part of a climate change mitigation plan. Additionally, Thunberg speaks at conferences, meets the natural historian David Attenborough and attends climate strikes. Plans for filming in other parts of the world were abandoned when the COVID-19 pandemic restricted travel from March 2020 onwards.
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At least she is trying to do something ...
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17-12-2021, 14:45
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Re: Climate Change - sea level rises.
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Originally Posted by ianch99
She is trying to raise awareness of the urgent need to make changes at a global level.
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As has been said, many, many, many times....no good spouting her bile at us. She needs to get on a boat to India and China.
See how far she gets.
https://eandt.theiet.org/content/art...tm_term=795546
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17-12-2021, 15:40
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Re: Climate Change - sea level rises.
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Originally Posted by Pierre
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Ok, now look at emissions based on a per person basis, China is nowhere near the worst offender
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17-12-2021, 16:22
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Re: Climate Change - sea level rises.
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Ok, now look at emissions based on a per person basis, China is nowhere near the worst offender
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If you provided a link he possibly would.
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17-12-2021, 16:39
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Re: Climate Change - sea level rises.
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If you provided a link he possibly would.
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Sorry, does Pierre need you to speak for him ? I’m sure Pierre is more than capable of using Google.
However, for you
https://lmgtfy.app/?q=pollution+per+capita+by+country
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17-12-2021, 16:54
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Re: Climate Change - sea level rises.
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees
Ok, now look at emissions based on a per person basis, China is nowhere near the worst offender
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I think that is a red herring. How much the ENTIRE country emits is realistic.
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