The Chronicles of Rishi

[jfman]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68848046

Let's undermine the wages of young people in this country by importing foreigners. What will the true believers say?

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by jfman

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68848046

Let's undermine the wages of young people in this country by importing foreigners. What will the true believers say?

That too many of our young people are lazy *******s and refuse to do a good day’s work?

Maybe you have an alternative view. What is it?

[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

That too many of our young people are lazy *******s and refuse to do a good day’s work?

Maybe you have an alternative view. What is it?

Capitalism, innit?

Supply and demand. If nobody wants to do a crap, low paid job for an unscrupulous employer they should pay more.

Disappointed in you, OB. As the leading free market capitalist and Brexit true believer I had more faith in you to know that.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by jfman

Capitalism, innit?

Supply and demand. If nobody wants to do a crap, low paid job for an unscrupulous employer they should pay more.

Disappointed in you, OB. As the leading free market capitalist and Brexit true believer I had more faith in you to know that.

I would have thought that anyone not prepared to do such work would aspire to something better, but no.They would prefer to stay on benefits.

Funny how this is a typically British problem. Even the working classes are far too snooty! I bet it’s not like that in Romania. That’s why they come here? Does that square your circle, jfman?

[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I would have thought that anyone not prepared to do such work would aspire to something better, but no.They would prefer to stay on benefits.

Funny how this is a typically British problem. Even the working classes are far too snooty! I bet it’s not like that in Romania. That’s why they come here? Does that square your circle, jfman?

Any evidence that "young people" prefer to stay on benefits or is it merely a lazy trope from whatever right wing rag you get "news" from?

I thought the Romanians came for benefits and free iPads? No?

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

That too many of our young people are lazy *******s and refuse to do a good day’s work?

Could say the same about idle pensioners bleeding the state dry, with free everything and index linked triple locked pensions. All they do is stream stuff and spout cobblers all day, in their big empty houses, about how young people are teriible , and how the country has gone to pot (since that referendum, for which they were in no way responsible, even if it has destroyed the futures of the young).

The young won't be able to put their feet up so early , or get any of the perks, they'll still be paying off student debts, and uber rich landlords . Let's hope you're not reliant on them for your care a few years down the line, they might well have departed these shores if they've got any sense.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Could say the same about idle pensioners bleeding the state dry, with free everything and index linked triple locked pensions. All they do is stream stuff and spout cobblers all day, in their big empty houses, about how young people are teriible , and how the country has gone to pot (since that referendum, for which they were in no way responsible, even if it has destroyed the futures of the young).

The young won't be able to put their feet up so early , or get any of the perks, they'll still be paying off student debts, and uber rich landlords . Let's hope you're not reliant on them for your care a few years down the line, they might well have departed these shores if they've got any sense.

Don't worry as once this lot comes after the mythical young people that supposedly don't work, it will be the sick and disabled and then those that suffer from mental illness next.

He does not mention the obliteration of many NHS services, waiting lists of nearly 8 million, mental health services non existent for many, etc, etc, etc.

[GrimUpNorth]

Originally Posted by denphone

Don't worry as once this lot comes after the mythical young people that supposedly don't work, it will be the sick and disabled and then those that suffer from mental illness next.

He does not mention the obliteration of many NHS services, waiting lists of nearly 8 million, mental health services non existent for many, etc, etc, etc.

Add to that local government selling assets to make ends meet because of the savage cuts being forced on them by central government.

[jfman]

And as well as covering the maxxed out credit card their taxes need to pony up £15bn for another failed privatisation (Thames Water).

[denphone]

Originally Posted by jfman

And as well as covering the maxxed out credit card their taxes need to pony up £15bn for another failed privatisation (Thames Water).

And the many, many billions during the pandemic they gave to their cosy crony cliques.

[jonbxx]

Originally Posted by jfman

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68848046

Let's undermine the wages of young people in this country by importing foreigners. What will the true believers say?

This is exciting news! My eldest was celebrating yesterday when she heard about this. Had to temper expectations as this could take years to happen if it happens at all.

If it were to happen by 2027 though, it would be super helpful as, if her A Levels go well and she gets the university she wants, that will be her work placement year.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by jfman

And as well as covering the maxxed out credit card their taxes need to pony up £15bn for another failed privatisation (Thames Water).

It's the owners who decide how much or how little debt they load the company up with. If they gamble and get it wrong, then they should face the consequences.

If the owners gamble on loading the parent company up with debt, and interests rates rise then they take a hit and possibly lose ownership of their assets. Conversely, if interest rates fall then they take a gain.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

It's the owners who decide how much or how little debt they load the company up with. If they gamble and get it wrong, then they should face the consequences.

If the owners gamble on loading the parent company up with debt, and interests rates rise then they take a hit and possibly lose ownership of their assets. Conversely, if interest rates fall then they take a gain.

In that case nobody would take on a privatised industry (and I’d be fine with that). All these vulture capitalists pile because it’s free spins at the roulette wheel. Billions borrowed. Billions paid in dividends. Zero investment.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by jfman

In that case nobody would take on a privatised industry (and I’d be fine with that).

They would, if the price and projected returns were right.

[daveeb]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Coincidentally, I was at the Wetherspoon's there between Christmas and New Year (The Swatter's Carr) keeping a friend company who's trying to visit all of them. Area seemed ok although when we visited at 4pm most people looked they had been there several hours.

As bucket lists go that's a strange one!

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Originally Posted by Mr K

Could say the same about idle pensioners bleeding the state dry, with free everything and index linked triple locked pensions. All they do is stream stuff and spout cobblers all day, in their big empty houses, about how young people are teriible , and how the country has gone to pot (since that referendum, for which they were in no way responsible, even if it has destroyed the futures of the young).

The young won't be able to put their feet up so early , or get any of the perks, they'll still be paying off student debts, and uber rich landlords . Let's hope you're not reliant on them for your care a few years down the line, they might well have departed these shores if they've got any sense.

Yup got it spot on. Can't imagine why the 18-24 age group have all but given up on the daft notion of voting Tory.