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Old 16-05-2021, 11:48   #10456
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And this is the crux of my point - they were absolutely going to fall again. Sky called it last time that there would be nobody out there to match their 2016 offer. Similarly there's nobody out there to match the 2019 offer.

BT are on record that they are trying to reduce their sports rights expenditure. The only way the rights would go up is a new entrant, or Amazon wanting to commit beyond their bargain basement rights they have just now.

If there was a genuine chance of a DAZN, Netflix, Facebook or Google bid we would be heading to auction. Spoiler: there isn't.

But the fact there wasn't an auction presumably means OB will carry over his usual prediction of a streamer bidding for the meaningful packages to the next auction.
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But the fact there wasn't an auction presumably means OB will carry over his usual prediction of a streamer bidding for the meaningful packages to the next auction.
We await that next auction very keenly.
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And this is the crux of my point - they were absolutely going to fall again. Sky called it last time that there would be nobody out there to match their 2016 offer. Similarly there's nobody out there to match the 2019 offer.

BT are on record that they are trying to reduce their sports rights expenditure. The only way the rights would go up is a new entrant, or Amazon wanting to commit beyond their bargain basement rights they have just now.

If there was a genuine chance of a DAZN, Netflix, Facebook or Google bid we would be heading to auction. Spoiler: there isn't.
I am not disputing that. All I have said is that the reason for the decision not to go for an auction this time around is the uncertainty brought about by Covid.

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But the fact there wasn't an auction presumably means OB will carry over his usual prediction of a streamer bidding for the meaningful packages to the next auction.
Well, what else would you expect? If there is no auction, things remain the same.

Unforeseen events have a habit of disrupting predictions.
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Old 16-05-2021, 12:40   #10459
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I am not disputing that. All I have said is that the reason for the decision not to go for an auction this time around is the uncertainty brought about by Covid.
What uncertainty does Covid bring to TV rights from 2022-2025?
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Old 16-05-2021, 13:17   #10460
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What uncertainty does Covid bring to TV rights from 2022-2025?
Indeed. These are the glory days of streaming.
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What uncertainty does Covid bring to TV rights from 2022-2025?
Nothing, because apparently everything is going to be fine and we will all be back to normal by June 21st…
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Nothing, because apparently everything is going to be fine and we will all be back to normal by June 21st…
Except for viewers in the Granada region.
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Except for viewers in the Granada region.
And of course except for viewers in Scotland.
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Old 16-05-2021, 15:10   #10464
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My personal opinion is that the Premier League football rights have reached its peak and when the next auction for TV deals comes up there's going to be very little change in how much is paid. Just my opinion of course. Maybe more streamers will come on board,who knows? Would it not be possible for say Sky and Virgin to offer a football bundle? I.E access to every games regardless of who's putting it on for a single monthly payment? Sky,and presumably Virgin have Amazon and Netflix apps already so could easily add others I imagine?
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What uncertainty does Covid bring to TV rights from 2022-2025?
If the Premier football clubs start going under through lack of people going through the turnstiles, I would suggest to you that this would have a significant impact for those holding TV rights, and that risk will inevitably lead to prospective bidders lowering the price they want to pay for the rights.

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Indeed. These are the glory days of streaming.
Nothing to do with it.

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Nothing, because apparently everything is going to be fine and we will all be back to normal by June 21st…
Do you know something we don’t, Hugh?
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Old 16-05-2021, 19:45   #10466
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If the Premier football clubs start going under through lack of people going through the turnstiles, I would suggest to you that this would have a significant impact for those holding TV rights, and that risk will inevitably lead to prospective bidders lowering the price they want to pay for the rights.

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Nothing to do with it.

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Do you know something we don’t, Hugh?
Just reminding you of one message in one thread (everything will be fine) and a different message in this thread (the uncertainty brought about by Covid.)…
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Just reminding you of one message in one thread (everything will be fine) and a different message in this thread (the uncertainty brought about by Covid.)…
Context, dear boy, context.
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If the Premier football clubs start going under through lack of people going through the turnstiles, I would suggest to you that this would have a significant impact for those holding TV rights, and that risk will inevitably lead to prospective bidders lowering the price they want to pay for the rights.
In this most pessimistic of scenarios, I still can't see any significant clubs folding that would lead to a reduction in the value of sports rights for the remaining clubs.

Match day revenue is not the largest income stream these days. At Manchester City, for example, it only accounts for 9% of the Club's income.
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Context, dear boy, context.
And the context, dear boy, is that they are both happening in the same time period...
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I fail to see how the current “glory days of streaming” can be so readily dismissed by OB of all people!
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