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Old 13-05-2021, 00:12   #10426
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So if BT Sport sell up i wonder if amazon will snatch it up or disney considering disney already have worked with BT sport over licensing ESPN
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Old 13-05-2021, 00:30   #10427
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So if BT Sport sell up i wonder if amazon will snatch it up or disney considering disney already have worked with BT sport over licensing ESPN
These were my thoughts on seven potential buyers: https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...ostcount=10380

If a deal is done, I reckon DAZN or Disney are most likely.

Others felt Sky should not be ruled out as it would be keen to take out a competitor. Hoever, I think the Premier League could prevent this by making sure Sky was aware that it would re-auction BT's rights if that situation arose, which rights owners are able to do if the ownership of the broadcaster changes. (Change of control clause.)
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Old 13-05-2021, 17:58   #10428
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These were my thoughts on seven potential buyers: https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...ostcount=10380

If a deal is done, I reckon DAZN or Disney are most likely.

Others felt Sky should not be ruled out as it would be keen to take out a competitor. Hoever, I think the Premier League could prevent this by making sure Sky was aware that it would re-auction BT's rights if that situation arose, which rights owners are able to do if the ownership of the broadcaster changes. (Change of control clause.)
Not sure they’d be keen to anger their best customer with the deepest pockets.
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These were my thoughts on seven potential buyers: https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...ostcount=10380

If a deal is done, I reckon DAZN or Disney are most likely.
I’m glad you said that and not me! You seem to have avoided the hostile response I would have received for coming even close to such a suggestion!
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These were my thoughts on seven potential buyers: https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...ostcount=10380

If a deal is done, I reckon DAZN or Disney are most likely.

Others felt Sky should not be ruled out as it would be keen to take out a competitor. Hoever, I think the Premier League could prevent this by making sure Sky was aware that it would re-auction BT's rights if that situation arose, which rights owners are able to do if the ownership of the broadcaster changes. (Change of control clause.)
Do we really think a streaming only channel will be keen to take on football rights in the UK without a standard channel on Sky/Virgin/BT? Even for a tenner that streaming channel with spanish/italian football completely collapsed within 6 months or so?

Amazon works because its on most smart tvs, firesticks, tv boxes, is a well known brand etc.

"Oh btw the new EPL stuff is on DAZN"
"DAZN....what the heck is DAZN"
"its streaming service for football?"
"how do i get it....i just want to watch the football?"
"well on your laptop you can cast from your pc/laptop or smartphone to a google chromebox for example!"
"what?"
"or a ps4/x box app which has just been released"
"what....."
"its on apple tv"
"oh forget it!!"
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Old 14-05-2021, 07:46   #10431
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Do we really think a streaming only channel will be keen to take on football rights in the UK without a standard channel on Sky/Virgin/BT? Even for a tenner that streaming channel with spanish/italian football completely collapsed within 6 months or so?

Amazon works because its on most smart tvs, firesticks, tv boxes, is a well known brand etc.

"Oh btw the new EPL stuff is on DAZN"
"DAZN....what the heck is DAZN"
"its streaming service for football?"
"how do i get it....i just want to watch the football?"
"well on your laptop you can cast from your pc/laptop or smartphone to a google chromebox for example!"
"what?"
"or a ps4/x box app which has just been released"
"what....."
"its on apple tv"
"oh forget it!!"
If I were making these decisions at DAZN, and given where we are at the moment with the transition to IPTV, I would stream it as well as having at least a 'pop up' pay-tv channel to maximise revenue.

It's different for Amazon because having the footie on Prime only helps to increase revenue for their retail operation as well.
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Old 14-05-2021, 08:16   #10432
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It was all done via rollover so staying the same
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I’m glad you said that and not me! You seem to have avoided the hostile response I would have received for coming even close to such a suggestion!
Nobody is hostile on the basis of who said it.
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Old 14-05-2021, 09:01   #10434
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If I were making these decisions at DAZN, and given where we are at the moment with the transition to IPTV, I would stream it as well as having at least a 'pop up' pay-tv channel to maximise revenue.

It's different for Amazon because having the footie on Prime only helps to increase revenue for their retail operation as well.
I think Amazon have a satellite channel for showing matches in pubs don't they?

Agreed that a broadcaster with EPL rights needs a linear channel or two. DAZN has done this in other countries but next auction now in a couple of years' time.

With DAZN acquiring UK rights to Matchrrom Boxing, it will be interesting to see how they will grow their footprint across devices and platforms.
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Nobody is hostile on the basis of who said it.
That’s not my experience on this forum.

As the Premiership bids are being rolled over this time around due to Covid, I guess we can only speculate on what might have been.
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That’s not my experience on this forum.

As the Premiership bids are being rolled over this time around due to Covid, I guess we can only speculate on what might have been.
We can also speculate on the future direction of BT Sport too.
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That’s not my experience on this forum.

As the Premiership bids are being rolled over this time around due to Covid, I guess we can only speculate on what might have been.
They’re only rolled over by consent - not “because of Covid”.

If the EPL felt they could extract better value for their shareholders (clubs) by running an auction then they would have done so.
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No - they do a deal with Premier Sport (I think) for capacity.

Satellite viewers loose access to Premier Sports at such times.

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They’re only rolled over by consent - not “because of Covid”.

If the EPL felt they could extract better value for their shareholders (clubs) by running an auction then they would have done so.
You are mistaken.

https://www.espn.co.uk/football/engl...oiding-auction

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The league said it had received government approval to renew its broadcast rights with existing partners instead of holding a competitive auction due to the financial impact of the COVID-19 pandemic.
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You are mistaken.

https://www.espn.co.uk/football/engl...oiding-auction

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The league said it had received government approval to renew its broadcast rights with existing partners instead of holding a competitive auction due to the financial impact of the COVID-19 pandemic.
You are, as ever, selectively quoting.

They obviously need Government permission to award the rights without putting them out to tender due to competition concerns.

That is not to say that they could not have run an auction if they sincerely believed that was the best way to maximise revenue.

Clearly they did not believe this would have extracted greatest value for their shareholders.
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