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Old 17-06-2021, 14:42   #16
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Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025

The question you guys need to be asking yourself is . . . will updates continue to break stuff
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Old 17-06-2021, 14:51   #17
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Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025

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The question you guys need to be asking yourself is . . . will updates continue to break stuff

Or will you be able to even download them... see 365 CDN updates deploying via MECM for the past two months......

My windows infrastructure team are livid.
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Old 17-06-2021, 20:20   #18
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Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025

A guy my daughter follows online found an ISO for Win11 on the net. He made a virtual machine to run it, and he says it's "Win10 with a slap of makeup".
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Old 17-06-2021, 20:45   #19
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A guy my daughter follows online found an ISO for Win11 on the net. He made a virtual machine to run it, and he says it's "Win10 with a slap of makeup".
I have it too. It is pretty much so far what Windows 10X was going to be before they scrapped
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Old 17-06-2021, 22:04   #20
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So they are giving the kiddie OS a makeover ?

Heres an idea - go back to using the Windows XP inteface.
It was (and still is) by far the best, not the ridiculous kids lego blocks.
Well, they could at least take some of the inconsistent design decisions out.

Although hopefully it is a bit of a rethink of how Windows is structured and released.

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Ah I forgot about Project Reunion!

Microsoft has so many different developer frameworks. They're doing a really good job with .Net core and the web technologies. I think Desktop development is largely dead outside of the enterprise and even there it's likely either very specialist software or legacy code being updated.

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They likely want to go subscription model where you have a thin client running locally and all the grunt done "on the cloud". You could have local storage and use of local graphics. Why sell O/S for £100 when you can rent it for £5 a month. No need for awkward updates and if people don't keep paying they lose access.
Microsoft is going to be offering a 'virtual desktop' service in the coming months. Basically an Azure-hosted VM you can rent and treat as your own. They already do this for business customers where they can promising 100s of VMs hosted and managed on Azure for their staff.

But I don't think they'll take away the local Windows install. You'll still be able to have your own machine for a long-time yet.

That said the thin-client talking to the cloud will be what developers might provide and it'll be those developers who pay Microsoft and in turn request payment from you. A lot more apps will be basically progressive web apps or hybrid desktop apps that require the internet anyway. WhatsApp, Teams, Spotify are all examples of this already.
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Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025

A friend I used to work with now works for MS (doing well, as they are shipping him out to Singapore to run the Far East Consultancy arm) - he says the biggest difference in today’s MS work environment is that the CEO Nadella told all employees, including OS developers, they have to use MS tools and systems (before they could use whatever they could justify).

Apparently, using their own stuff has made them realise what was needed to improve the user experience, but also working towards integrating all the different (previously, very different) apps, services, and systems.

He said they’ve still got a way to go, but at least now they realise it’s important, rather than someone else’s problem…
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Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025

Nadella also got them to embrace multiple platforms. Microsoft's software on Mac and iPhones is so much better now and you can even develop on the Microsoft Stack on a Mac with .Net Core and Visual Studio Code. That's a huge departure for Microsoft but a very good one.
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