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**Hugh** · 14-06-2021, 19:53

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Originally Posted by Taf

I think all this "charging at home or in car parks" system is looking the wrong way.

Why not CHANGE your flat battery for a charged one at some local location?

I'm sure it could be done. In-and-out in minutes instead of hours. No need to have charging leads all over the place. No need to upgrade all the local power lines.

The South Korean government is changing all telephone booths into battery-exchange units for their growing number of electric bikes.

Maybe because the battery is an large integral part of the car, rather than a small plug in part.

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Pierre · 14-06-2021, 20:00

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Originally Posted by Taf

I think all this "charging at home or in car parks" system is looking the wrong way.

Why not CHANGE your flat battery for a charged one at some local location?

I'm sure it could be done. In-and-out in minutes instead of hours. No need to have charging leads all over the place. No need to upgrade all the local power lines.

The South Korean government is changing all telephone booths into battery-exchange units for their growing number of electric bikes.

In Taiwan you can subscribe and just swap out your battery for your electric scooter as you go.

https://electrek.co/2020/01/01/gogor...tional-israel/

It works for bikes, and I’m sure will catch on globally, but it doesn’t works for cars, as Hugh points out.

Carth · 14-06-2021, 21:33

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Many many years ago, in a time almost forgotten, and just after school started spoiling our fun, my brother and I had something similar our father made us. Admittedly it consisted of a few planks of wood, 4 old pram wheels, and a length of rope for steering . . . but it was eco friendly

jonbxx · 15-06-2021, 08:39

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Originally Posted by Taf

I think all this "charging at home or in car parks" system is looking the wrong way.

Why not CHANGE your flat battery for a charged one at some local location?

I'm sure it could be done. In-and-out in minutes instead of hours. No need to have charging leads all over the place. No need to upgrade all the local power lines.

The South Korean government is changing all telephone booths into battery-exchange units for their growing number of electric bikes.

Chinese electric car company Nio are working on just this kind of thing with Nio Power Swap - https://www.nio.com/nio-power

Clever stuff but would need standardisation or there would need to be a lot of battery stations for all the different manufacturers.

tweetiepooh · 15-06-2021, 09:36

And what if you arrived at your battery station to find no available charged "spares".

Sephiroth · 15-06-2021, 09:37

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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh

And what if you arrived at your battery station to find no available charged "spares".

You are totally effed.

papa smurf · 15-06-2021, 09:45

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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh

And what if you arrived at your battery station to find no available charged "spares".

You keep a gallon can of electricity in the boot for such emergencies.

Carth · 15-06-2021, 11:03

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

You keep a gallon can of electricity in the boot for such emergencies.

Gosh no, that would fall foul of innumerable Health & Safety considerations.
In the event of a substantial impact the container could be compromised, which is likely to unleash a flow of pure electrical energy into the car. If this electrical surge gained entry to the cooling system it would pass through the water, instantly producing Oxygen & Hydrogen . . a very volatile mixture with disastrous consequences if a person wearing a silk shirt tried to open the door

Sephiroth · 15-06-2021, 11:11

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Originally Posted by Carth

Gosh no, that would fall foul of innumerable Health & Safety considerations.
In the event of a substantial impact the container could be compromised, which is likely to unleash a flow of pure electrical energy into the car. If this electrical surge gained entry to the cooling system it would pass through the water, instantly producing Oxygen & Hydrogen . . a very volatile mixture with disastrous consequences if a person wearing a silk shirt tried to open the door

We should make export models specially for the French market

Taf · 15-06-2021, 15:24

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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh

And what if you arrived at your battery station to find no available charged "spares".

Probably the same as if I arrived at a charging point and it was occupied or unserviceable.

**Maggy** · 17-06-2021, 08:57

Pack in the childishness and stick to the topic.

Edit: Further to this, the posts have been removed by Admin.

mrmistoffelees · 17-06-2021, 12:44

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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh

And what if you arrived at your battery station to find no available charged "spares".

Tesla already shows which charging points are/are not available for usage.

I'm sure the same thing could be applied to battery units

Carth · 25-03-2022, 10:05

Two or three threads to bump, chose this one.

Electric car charge points to overtake fuel pumps

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60863974

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The number of electric vehicle charging points will reach 300,000 by 2030 under government plans but motoring groups say the roll out is not fast enough.

I walked past our local Tesco a couple of weeks ago and noticed 6 charge points - all occupied. The car park probably held 200 cars at the time.

I can't help feeling we're heading for a bit of a cock-up with electric vehicles, especially as the electricity needs to be generated by something, and those somethings are soon to be banned or sold at very high prices . . . could be paying £1 a mile by 2030

BenMcr · 25-03-2022, 10:27

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Originally Posted by Carth

Two or three threads to bump, chose this one.

Electric car charge points to overtake fuel pumps

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60863974

I walked past our local Tesco a couple of weeks ago and noticed 6 charge points - all occupied. The car park probably held 200 cars at the time.

I can't help feeling we're heading for a bit of a cock-up with electric vehicles, especially as the electricity needs to be generated by something, and those somethings are soon to be banned or sold at very high prices . . . could be paying £1 a mile by 2030

We've had this open last year in Manchester, which I'd need if I switched to electric as I don't have a driveway. It replaced a ICE fuel station that had already closed and was being used as a hand car wash.

https://www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/lat...arging-station

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Independent forecourt operator, Motor Fuel Group (MFG), has opened its first all-electric vehicle (EV) charging station in Stretford, Manchester.

With support from its power infrastructure partner Energy Assets Networks (EAN), the site comprises eight 150kW ultra-fast charging points, which enable battery recharge in 20-40 minutes, along with retail convenience store, food to go, restroom and vehicle valeting facilities.

1andrew1 · 25-03-2022, 10:38

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Originally Posted by Carth

Two or three threads to bump, chose this one.

Electric car charge points to overtake fuel pumps

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60863974

I walked past our local Tesco a couple of weeks ago and noticed 6 charge points - all occupied. The car park probably held 200 cars at the time.

I can't help feeling we're heading for a bit of a cock-up with electric vehicles, especially as the electricity needs to be generated by something, and those somethings are soon to be banned or sold at very high prices . . . could be paying £1 a mile by 2030

The Government's is looking at permitting onshore wind farms again which would help with more and cheaper electricity generation, but there is a split in the Cabinet.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60837170