22-10-2021, 00:29
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Re: Coronavirus
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Except, of course, that Covid is not responsible for such admissions.
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What do you mean by "such admissions?"
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22-10-2021, 00:35
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Re: Coronavirus
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There’s no point in engaging extensively with someone who clearly doesn’t understand the situation. And isn’t willing to.
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I guess we should stop responding to your posts then. Where’s the fun in that?
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What do you mean by "such admissions?"
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Admissions that are not due to Covid.
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22-10-2021, 00:46
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Re: Coronavirus
I know two on this forum who would still be arguing.
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22-10-2021, 01:37
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Re: Coronavirus
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I know two on this forum who would still be arguing.
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Debating, surely?
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Admissions that are not due to Covid.
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An admission is an admission and too many admissions will overwhelm the NHS.
If admissions do continue to rise and threaten the NHS, what other ways are there to reduce admissions apart from Plan B?
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22-10-2021, 08:07
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
Debating, surely?
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An admission is an admission and too many admissions will overwhelm the NHS.
If admissions do continue to rise and threaten the NHS, what other ways are there to reduce admissions apart from Plan B?
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Oh, so it doesn't matter whether or not the increase in hospital admissions are due to Covid, if they get busy, we should all wear facemasks anyway!
Seriously, Andrew, what are you like?
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22-10-2021, 09:24
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
Debating, surely?
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An admission is an admission and too many admissions will overwhelm the NHS.
If admissions do continue to rise and threaten the NHS, what other ways are there to reduce admissions apart from Plan B?
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That's in the realms of the bleedin' obvious. And if the number of people in hospital remains approximately where it is because people get discharged, then there's not so much of a problem.
It's prolly time that some granularity in the figures should be provided.
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22-10-2021, 10:45
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Re: Coronavirus
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Oh, so it doesn't matter whether or not the increase in hospital admissions are due to Covid, if they get busy, we should all wear facemasks anyway!
Seriously, Andrew, what are you like?
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How else do you propose reducing hospital admissions? Instructing everyone to drive at 10 mph? Banning contact sport?
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22-10-2021, 10:47
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Re: Coronavirus
Time gentlefolk to actually settle down and debate like adults.If you can't then I suggest you leave the thread.
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23-10-2021, 02:54
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59011321
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Advising people to work from home is likely to have the most impact on stopping Covid spreading this winter, scientists advising the government say.
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I can live with that, been doing it for 19 months now anyway.
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23-10-2021, 21:02
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Re: Coronavirus
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I disagree. The government has set the parameters that will decide if and when restrictions should be reimposed. They should stick to the criteria and not be influenced by those peddling their own agendas.
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23-10-2021, 21:27
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
I disagree. The government has set the parameters that will decide if and when restrictions should be reimposed. They should stick to the criteria and not be influenced by those peddling their own agendas.
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Yes don't be influenced by the scientists advising government even though they've been telling us for months that we must follow the science
Doesn't seem like that long ago we were clapping the NHS workers, now those nasty parasites we call a government have declared war on GP's
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23-10-2021, 22:06
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Re: Coronavirus
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Yes don't be influenced by the scientists advising government even though they've been telling us for months that we must follow the science
Doesn't seem like that long ago we were clapping the NHS workers, now those nasty parasites we call a government have declared war on GP's
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Or are the GPs trying to away with 70+ years of tangible service to the community? We need to get to the bottom of what is behind this.
GP laziness?
Not enough GPs?
Or what?
I do favour a system that my practice used before the pandemic. I called the surgery by telephone; the non-medically qualified receptionist arranged for the GP to call me back later that day; the ensuing conversation would determine whether or not I should go and see him.
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23-10-2021, 22:08
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
The government has set the parameters that will decide if and when restrictions should be reimposed.
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They have? I totally missed that one. Please provide a link.
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23-10-2021, 22:31
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
Or are the GPs trying to away with 70+ years of tangible service to the community? We need to get to the bottom of what is behind this.
GP laziness?
Not enough GPs?
Or what?
I do favour a system that my practice used before the pandemic. I called the surgery by telephone; the non-medically qualified receptionist arranged for the GP to call me back later that day; the ensuing conversation would determine whether or not I should go and see him.
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Not enough of them trying to cope with far to many patients imo. It is bad, I've been tempted several times recently to sign up with private health care through my partners work but everytime I have to spend 7 hours in the polyclinic because my GP won't see me I think this is exactly what the government want so feck 'em I'll put up with it. My practise was described as inadequate but it worked so much better then than it does now
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23-10-2021, 23:22
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Re: Coronavirus
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Or are the GPs trying to away with 70+ years of tangible service to the community? We need to get to the bottom of what is behind this.
GP laziness?
Not enough GPs?
Or what?
I do favour a system that my practice used before the pandemic. I called the surgery by telephone; the non-medically qualified receptionist arranged for the GP to call me back later that day; the ensuing conversation would determine whether or not I should go and see him.
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Speaking to friends who are GPs, one of the major challenges is the increase in older patients* (who often have complex needs, so a 10 minute standard appointment isn’t sufficient, and they require more appointments due to the complex needs).
Also, there are fewer GPS - there are now just 0.45 fully qualified GPs per 1000 patients in England – down from 0.52 in 2015. https://www.bma.org.uk/advice-and-su...neral-practice
*5.5 million over 75, 1.6 million over 85, 600k over 90.
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