Newcastle United LETS go

Media Boy UK · 09-01-2008, 17:45

Newcastle United have part company their manager with Sam Allardyce.

punky · 09-01-2008, 17:48

Can't see it in the news anywhere?

Media Boy UK · 09-01-2008, 17:49

It Breaking news on Sky Sports News.

punky · 09-01-2008, 17:51

Ah yeah, just come up on BBC news 24.

Shadow Demon UK · 09-01-2008, 17:53

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ed/7179847.stm

Media Boy UK · 09-01-2008, 17:54

Here is the link: http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...033322,00.html

Shadow Demon UK · 09-01-2008, 17:55

Hopefully they get Shearer in as manager and get in an even worse state

Delta Whiskey · 09-01-2008, 19:58

Eleven managers in as many years. I don't think Shearer's the answer, not yet anyway.
Perhaps they should pick a committee from the fans.

dev · 09-01-2008, 20:01

i'm surprised newcastle can get a manager, their fans expect them to win every game and when they lose one they want the manager out. they need to learn they are no where near the top 4 let alone the european places

jonifen · 09-01-2008, 20:37

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Originally Posted by dev

i'm surprised newcastle can get a manager, their fans expect them to win every game and when they lose one they want the manager out. they need to learn they are no where near the top 4 let alone the european places

You've got it spot on there dev.
Newcastle are different to all other teams in the premiership in that they are the only team in the city. Birmingham, Manchester and Liverpool (comparable sized cities) have two major teams each.
As a result, they have a wider local fanbase and a higher expectancy to win.

The longer they go without success, the worse it will get. I don't believe for a team in the rebuilding process (as Newcastle was/is - new chairman, new manager, new players etc), that 11th place at Xmas is necessarily a bad start.

Basically, they should have given him more time.
And going back to what dev said, if they had given him until Christmas 2008 and it still wasn't working then fair enough, but how many managers will want to go through that? Newcastle United is a club that can make/break a managers career. I believe Big Sam will struggle for a premiership club for his next job.

BBKing · 09-01-2008, 22:01

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Newcastle are different to all other teams in the premiership in that they are the only team in the city

Middlesbrough, Sunderland, Portsmouth, Blackburn, Bolton, Reading, Wigan, Derby. 9 out of 20 teams, in fact. Not sure the facts are there to back you up.

It's noticeable that on the current table the top six are the top two teams from Manchester, Liverpool and London, the three cities with the most success in British football. Given that, I recommend Newcastle move to one of them.

Arthurgray50@blu · 09-01-2008, 22:25

If you had read the papers, a few weeks ago, United were touting ex-Spurs boss Martin Jol, l personally feel that he will be in charge by next week, and he was a good manager.

jonifen · 09-01-2008, 22:35

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Originally Posted by BBKing

Middlesbrough, Sunderland, Portsmouth, Blackburn, Bolton, Reading, Wigan, Derby. 9 out of 20 teams, in fact. Not sure the facts are there to back you up.

If you can provide the facts to show that the other towns you mentioned are of any size close to Newcastle then I will consider changing my views on the matter.

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

If you had read the papers, a few weeks ago, United were touting ex-Spurs boss Martin Jol, l personally feel that he will be in charge by next week, and he was a good manager.

He is a good manager... but another victim of the ever-raising levels of expectation in the Premiership.

BBKing · 09-01-2008, 23:33

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If you can provide the facts to show that the other towns you mentioned are of any size close to Newcastle then I will consider changing my views on the matter.

Happy to. Wikipedia puts the population of Newcastle at 260,000, which is about a quarter that of Birmingham and half that of Manchester, which rather alters the question, really.

For comparison:
Wigan: 305,000
Sunderland: 281,000
Bolton: 260,000
Derby: 230,000
Pompey: 196,000

The only place in the UK that can legimately claim to be rather under-represented is Leeds, which is a good deal bigger than Newcastle. Don't forget Bradford, too.

Of course, what I mean by 'Newcastle' is the middle bit of a conurbation (Tyne and Wear) of five main areas, but since this includes Sunderland it actually has two Premiership teams in it. You could try and divide the conurbation up into Mackem bits and Geordie bits, but then again you can divide Brum up into City and Villa areas, Manchester United's not really in Manchester*, and as for London, well Hammersmith & Fulham's got three clubs in it (Fulham, Chelsea, QPR) but poor old Ealing, population 306,000, has no professional clubs at all.

Small team, small town, big dreams, big delusions.

* Trafford, population 212,000. On that basis, if Newcastle has one Premier club, so does Manchester, which is bigger. Alternatively, if you refer to the whole conurbation, Manchester has two and Tyne and Wear has two. QED.

jonifen · 10-01-2008, 00:00

And on that bombshell... I consider myself told

Although... this wiki page does state Wigan to be massively smaller than above - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wigan
And also with Sunderland... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunderland

Where abouts are your figures from on Wiki?