Online Safety Bill

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Responsibile parents will do spot checks to check if this has been or is being done and apply appropriately sanctions for this behaviour.

For children of less responsibile parents who know how to circumvent the law and are prepared to be disobedient, I agree that it's unlikely they will be caught unless serious consequences arise as a result of their law breaking, where their phones will be forensically analysed.

I’m not sure what planet you’re on, Richard, but this bears no resemblance to the world I am familiar with.

And isn’t it the ‘less responsible’ parents’ children who are most likely to be watching this stuff anyway and encouraging their mates to do things they shouldn’t?

I really cannot see this working, but I suppose the politicians will have been seen to do something, albeit almost totally ineffective.

What it will do is create a major headache for social media providers for absolutely no benefit to anyone.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Responsibile parents will do spot checks to check if this has been or is being done and apply appropriately sanctions for this behaviour.

For children of less responsibile parents who know how to circumvent the law and are prepared to be disobedient, I agree that it's unlikely they will be caught unless serious consequences arise as a result of their law breaking, where their phones will be forensically analysed.

This sounds like Richards laws not the reality everyone else lives in. Thankfully i and others live in the real world.

[RichardCoulter]

Why do you think this?

Paedophile hunting groups advise parents to check their children's devices to check they aren't being groomed (this would also help to highlight any cases of bullying by or to their own children).

[peanut]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Why do you think this?

Why do we ALL think this? Because you're a fanatical fantasist that's why. That sums you up in one sentence.

[RichardCoulter]

In the last few days discussion of this subject has continued on the Today programme and was featured on Any Questions, Any Answers and Today's Jeremy Vine programme. In Any Answers someone suggested that the way to deal with this is to close any site that causes problems for 6 months to encourage them to be responsible.

As suggested earlier, The Daily Telegraph is reporting that the Government response is to give head teachers the power to ban mobile phones and to tell them to search them for mobile phones.

In places where this has been done it has significantly improved behaviour, learning and social interaction.

Child phones are now being used in Americ and calls to introduce them here continue.

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Originally Posted by peanut

Why do we ALL think this? Because you're a fanatical fantasist that's why. That sums you up in one sentence.

Nonsense.

[peanut]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Nonsense.

So all the comments so far that say you don't live in the real world is just 'nonsense'... Just think about that for a moment...

[RichardCoulter]

The focus of attention about children & smartphones appears to be being broadened to include the amount of time that they spend on them.

The news on TV is reporting that some children spend over fifty hours a week on them- that's longer than the time they are at school or most adults spend working.

One lady said that she went up to her child's school at break time and saw most of them on their phones rather than playing or interactive with each other.

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Originally Posted by peanut

So all the comments so far that say you don't live in the real world is just 'nonsense'... Just think about that for a moment...

People are entitled to their opinion and to express them. What you need to think about is that debate should be about expressing & politely challenging views that don't fit with your own rather than constant personal attacks.

Giving reasons as to why you don't agree with the various views of other people and providing alternative ways to the ones being suggested is much more constructive.

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Facilitator correction

Expressing your own views.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

In the last few days discussion of this subject has continued on the Today programme and was featured on Any Questions, Any Answers and Today's Jeremy Vine programme. In Any Answers someone suggested that the way to deal with this is to close any site that causes problems for 6 months to encourage them to be responsible.

As suggested earlier, The Daily Telegraph is reporting that the Government response is to give head teachers the power to ban mobile phones and to tell them to search them for mobile phones.

In places where this has been done it has significantly improved behaviour, learning and social interaction.

Child phones are now being used in Americ and calls to introduce them here continue.

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Nonsense.

Child phones already exist in this country and have existed for many years. How many times do you need to be told ?

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Child phones already exist in this country and have existed for many years. How many times do you need to be told ?

You may wish to politely contact The Daily Telegraph about this then.

However, I have no recollection of being told this previously. If correct this may be due to
my cognitive disability and I thank you for your clarification but, going forward, I do
ask you to be more polite, empathetic & respectful if the need ever arises again.

[ozsat]

There was a 'phone in on LBC the other day about the requirement for 'kids' 'phones.

The conclusion was that everything needed to protect kids on their mobiles already exists and the problem is most parents are just not interested or prepared to enforce rules on their own children's 'phone use.

You can get talk/text 'phones only still - and you can control app use on 'phones via another 'phone which the parent can have.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by ozsat

There was a 'phone in on LBC the other day about the requirement for 'kids' 'phones.

The conclusion was that everything needed to protect kids on their mobiles already exists and the problem is most parents are just not interested or prepared to enforce rules on their own children's 'phone use.

I can certainly believe that this is the case.

I've just been listening to the former CEO's
of Instagram & Twitter.

The key point from the Instagram guy was that at the time he was solely interested in increasing the amount of time on Instagram, but that he regrets this now.

The key points from the Twitter guy was that he thinks that it's relatively easy for children to mislead their parents, so his own children are not allowed smartphones. They are allowed to use his & his wife's in the home, but are closely monitored.

Lets stick to the subject in this topic shall we, not attacking each other.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

I can certainly believe that this is the case.

I've just been listening to the former CEO's
of Instagram & Twitter.

The key point from the Instagram guy was that at the time he was solely interested in increasing the amount of time on Instagram, but that he regrets this now.

The key points from the Twitter guy was that he thinks that it's relatively easy for children to mislead their parents, so his own children are not allowed smartphones. They are allowed to use his & his wife's in the home, but are closely monitored.

Just to let you know, the CEO guy of Instagram may say one thing publicly but is under Meta the comapany that owns it which is the same company that owns Facebook and ultimately ends up at Mark Zuckerberg.

The CEO of twitter is not a guy but a woman, Linda Yaccarino who is ulimately under the direction of the owner, Elon Musk.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

You may wish to politely contact The Daily Telegraph about this then.

However, I have no recollection of being told this previously. If correct this may be due to
my cognitive disability and I thank you for your clarification but, going forward, I do
ask you to be more polite, empathetic & respectful if the need ever arises again.

And I ask you to stop playing your disability card because you can’t be bothered to read replies due to your incessant need to spout utter gibberish.

[Itshim]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

And I ask you to stop playing your disability card because you can’t be bothered to read replies due to your incessant need to spout utter gibberish.

In fairness quite often previous post are misread or ignored, OK so Richard does it more than most perhaps I should get my cards out .