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Originally Posted by watzizname

That's it till November and the 50th anniversary episode..

bugger,not sure i like this splitting seasons in 2 malarky ,just start getting into it and it finishes for months

[cimt]

This was the second half of the series that aired last year. So what we're waiting for now is the new series/anniversary special.

Originally Posted by cimt

This was the second half of the series that aired last year. So what we're waiting for now is the new series/anniversary special.

thats what i mean,i prefer seeing the whole season in one go rather than split in 2

[cimt]

Ah, I read it wrong. I thought you meant the episodes airing later this year was the second batch of the ones that just aired.

[MovedGoalPosts]

I'll be the voice of dissent here. It may be well made, but the plotline has now become so intricate, complex, convoluted (and a lot of other big words) that I now have no idea what is going on. If you need a manual to decipher a TV show, it's stopped being something enjoyable. I'm all for intelligent TV shows rather than dumbing everything down, but given Dr Who was always supposed to be about family audiences, I do wonder how many of the family actually get it anymore?

Originally Posted by Rob

I'll be the voice of dissent here. It may be well made, but the plotline has now become so intricate, complex, convoluted (and a lot of other big words) that I now have no idea what is going on. If you need a manual to decipher a TV show, it's stopped being something enjoyable. I'm all for intelligent TV shows rather than dumbing everything down, but given Dr Who was always supposed to be about family audiences, I do wonder how many of the family actually get it anymore?

I don't think it's especially intelligent, more just random stuff happening.

[danielf]

Originally Posted by Damien

I don't think it's especially intelligent, more just random stuff happening.

This. I think there's very little plot. There's just a random rabbit that gets pulled out towards the end that makes everything alright again. There's very little to suggest that this rabbit is any better than another random one.

[Anonymouse]

Interesting that the Valeyard was mentioned. Technically he's not the Doctor; he's an amalgam of the darker sides of the twelfth and thirteenth incarnations, created by the Master.

And they've pulled a potential blinder getting John Hurt; he wouldn't have struck me as an obvious choice, but I think he can pull it off.

And who, really, is River Song? What the hell is she to the Doctor? Why did he tell her his name?

Is he going to confirm at some point that he was one of the three Time Lords (in conjunction with Rassilon and Omega) who originally created the Time Travel facility, as was hinted at in the novelisation and deleted scenes of Rememberance Of The Daleks?

Where does all this leave Clara?

Originally Posted by Anonymouse

Is he going to confirm at some point that he was one of the three Time Lords (in conjunction with Rassilon and Omega) who originally created the Time Travel facility, as was hinted at in the novelisation and deleted scenes of Rememberance Of The Daleks?

No he isn't. The current production team have not bought in to the 'Cartmel Masterplan' and have already directly contradicted it at least once off the top of my head.

It never appeared on screen in the original show so they're not bound to it in any way.

[Tezcatlipoca]

Originally Posted by Anonymouse

And who, really, is River Song? What the hell is she to the Doctor? Why did he tell her his name?

He said she was his wife (something previously hinted at). Or do you think there's more to it than that?

[adzii_nufc]

Originally Posted by Matt D

He said she was his wife (something previously hinted at). Or do you think there's more to it than that?

She is his wife, Amelia Pond & Rory Williams' daughter.

(A good man goes to war) ("The Wedding of River Song'')

There's no more to it now, The Doctor may still meet her yet again in 'the wrong order' but that's about it. So basically they can still have her pop up due to the above but I doub't there's any more to her story.

John Hurt is likely the 9th Doctor and the one that killed the Timelords before Regenerating into Christopher Eccleston

[Graham M]

So are we ignoring Paul McGann here?

[adzii_nufc]

Originally Posted by Graham M

So are we ignoring Paul McGann here?

Paul McGann > John Hurt > Christopher Eccleston

John Hurt is an incarnation but not The Doctor so to speak, he killed the timelords which is probably what broke his promise to the name of 'The Doctor' a huge thing that doesn't just go away. He regenerated into Eccleston
and I assume the memories were erased or he was kept secret (The Doctor's secret)

Originally Posted by adzii_nufc

Paul McGann > John Hurt > Christopher Eccleston

John Hurt is an incarnation but not The Doctor so to speak, he killed the timelords which is probably what broke his promise to the name of 'The Doctor' a huge thing that doesn't just go away. He regenerated into Eccleston
and I assume the memories were erased or he was kept secret (The Doctor's secret)

Stolen a copy of the 50th anniversary script, have you?

Exactly where Hurt fits in, we don't know. What we can infer from what was broadcast is that he is a past regeneration of the Time Lord who we watch on TV from week to week, but he is a regeneration that The Doctor refuses to acknowledge, because of something he did that he finds abhorrent.

Where he fits in, we do not know. He may have ended the Time War. He may have done something that prompted the Doctor to flee Gallifrey. He may be The Other, or a variation on that character, who was intended to be introduced in the late 80s before the show was cancelled.

Interestingly, however, if he is an incarnation of the Time Lord we call the Dcotor, that individual no longer has two regenerations left, but one. Probably.

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by Chris

Interestingly, however, if he is an incarnation of the Time Lord we call the Dcotor, that individual no longer has two regenerations left, but one. Probably.

Although, I bet they'll say the counter got reset / extended after River gave up her regenerations to save the Doctor