General : Changes to Virgin TV (2022)

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by epsilon

Right, but I was limiting my reply to the point about content being streamed on ITV X before being aired on the live channels.

The features you list aren't unique to ITV X. They were also present in its predecessor, ITV Hub.

Yeah, wasn't comparing ITV Extra to ITV Hub, more why investing in it is important for ITV and adding to the point you had addressed with some others points that ITV Extra also addresses.

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Originally Posted by muppetman11

Sky is finished in my opinion , the next nail in the coffin will be if it loses Premier League Football.

Sky is a solid company and part of a successful American cable and film company so it will be around for some time. However, it is unique in both being a content producer and an infrastructure operator, which goes against the current fashion.

I don't see any company out there willing to take a significant amount of its sports content from Sky Sports. If Sky Sports drops any content, it will likely be because it does not want it badly.

Its closest competitor in this area is now Warner Bros Discovery/BT Sport. Co-owner WBD is financially stretched and in cost-cutting mode.

With regard to the other sports broadcasters:
- ViaPlay is an unknown but has entered the UK on a modest scale.
- DAZN is focused on boxing having being unsuccessful in other bidding rights.
- Amazon is not out to be a large sports player and is quitting tennis https://www.express.co.uk/sport/tenn...-Sports-tennis

[SonicMaster]

Originally Posted by Inactive Digital

It's the Virgin Ultra HD channel.

There's some good content on Virgin TV Ultra HD in December:

https://www.virginmedia.com/virgin-t...tra-hd-channel

[TheWatcher]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Yeah, wasn't comparing ITV Extra to ITV Hub, more why investing in it is important for ITV and adding to the point you had addressed with some others points that ITV Extra also addresses.

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Sky is a solid company and part of a successful American cable and film company so it will be around for some time. However, it is unique in both being a content producer and an infrastructure operator, which goes against the current fashion.

I don't see any company out there willing to take a significant amount of its sports content from Sky Sports. If Sky Sports drops any content, it will likely be because it does not want it badly.

Its closest competitor in this area is now Warner Bros Discovery/BT Sport. Co-owner WBD is financially stretched and in cost-cutting mode.

With regard to the other sports broadcasters:
- ViaPlay is an unknown but has entered the UK on a modest scale.
- DAZN is focused on boxing having being unsuccessful in other bidding rights.
- Amazon is not out to be a large sports player and is quitting tennis https://www.express.co.uk/sport/tenn...-Sports-tennis

Why do you keep referring to it as "ITV Extra"?

The "X" in ITVX is not short for Extra. They just chose X because it sounds good.

[Media Boy UK]

Virgin Media UK may put prices up by 14.6% in April 2023.

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...s-in-2024.html

[Media Boy UK]

Originally Posted by Media Boy UK

HEAD UP:

*My review of 2022 will be posted sometime on December 22nd.

*I have drop the "Best of" - so no voting this year.

*Changes to Virgin TV (2023) will launch sometime on December 29th or 31st.

PS Happy hoildays.

UPDATE:

*My review of 2022 will NOW be posted sometime after 3pm on December 29th.

*Changes to Virgin TV (2023) will launch sometime on December 31st after 6pm.

[Legendkiller2k]

Originally Posted by Media Boy UK

Virgin Media UK may put prices up by 14.6% in April 2023.

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...s-in-2024.html

That could be the straw that breaks the camels back so to say, got a feeling SKY and BT will follow suite.

[Kevc69]

In the current climate such a move would undoubtedly be a big risk. I forsee a big loss of customers on the TV side. I'd certainly be considering options given the percentage of repeats on most channels.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k

That could be the straw that breaks the camels back so to say, got a feeling SKY and BT will follow suite.

No doubt the other two will follow suit as there is only so much customers will pay and given the economic conditions currently its likely all three will lose customers with yet another inflation busting rise.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by TheWatcher

Why do you keep referring to it as "ITV Extra"?

The "X" in ITVX is not short for Extra. They just chose X because it sounds good.

Oops my bad.

[Legendkiller2k]

Originally Posted by Kevc69

In the current climate such a move would undoubtedly be a big risk. I forsee a big loss of customers on the TV side. I'd certainly be considering options given the percentage of repeats on most channels.

Even the broadband side VM are at risk with the likes of Cityfibre rolling out their network which is a open network so there is a wider choice of fttp isps available.
I'm now with air broadband as digital home went bust and rightly so is all i'll say on that, anyway air broadband offer 1gbs download and upload speeds for £45p/m with tv included the tv is only netgem so nothing to shout about,
others such as vodafone, talktalk are on the city fibre network too maybe it's time for vm to think about opening their network up?
Those ofcourse are just my thoughts and not rumours/information etc.

[nialli]

Originally Posted by Media Boy UK

Virgin Media UK may put prices up by 14.6% in April 2023.

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...s-in-2024.html

Never take a headline with “may” in the title as anything more than attention-seeking speculation

[Media Boy UK]

Originally Posted by nialli

Never take a headline with “may” in the title as anything more than attention-seeking speculation

I only said "may" due to this part:

For example, the latest CPI rate is 10.7% and RPI is 14%, thus an operator that chooses to increase its prices by RPI + 3.9% today would be raising them by an average of 17.9%!

Originally Posted by Media Boy UK

I only said "may" due to this part:

From the article

For example, the latest CPI rate is 10.7% and RPI is 14%, thus an operator that chooses to increase its prices by RPI + 3.9% today would be raising them by an average of 17.9%! But it’s worth noting how most broadband providers that adopt this approach use CPI and not RPI (i.e. using RPI on broadband is not a good look).

By comparison, Virgin Media has tended to buck this trend on their fixed line base and, as a result, last year’s annual increase was distinctly less aggressive than some of their closest rivals (here). But it should be said that their mobile customers already suffer from the RPI + 3.9% method (here). However, normally credible sources have now informed us that this may change in 2024.

Assuming the ISP follows the same trend in 2023 as they did in 2022, then we expect their usual round of annual price hikes to be announced in January or February 2023. But this may also give notice of their FUTURE intention to update the terms of their packages to adopt the RPI + 3.9% approach for their broadband base.

The change, which could then become effective for all customers on 1st May 2023, would mean that the price hikes introduced from 1st April 2024 (i.e. the following year) would be based off the RPI rate published in February 2024, plus 3.9% on top. The good news is that we’re expecting inflation to fall significantly by February 2024, although there’s still a high level of uncertainty over those forecasts.

[nialli]

Originally Posted by Media Boy UK

I only said "may" due to this part:

I know. The report referred to is speculation, that's what I'm saying.

[Joedm45]

I'm sure O2 have had this 3.9% + RPI baked in to their contracts for years, they certainly wont buck the trend so anyone who has had their Virgin mobile moved over to O2 will likely get a hefty increase.