FBI searches former president Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Hugh

When I was in the mob (and working with the USAF/US Army/NSA) folders with classifications (Secret/NoForInt/Top Secret/SCI/etc.) were only issued with appropriately classified information inside - they were never just "spare", as each folder would be tracked with the classification, a brief (if possible due to security) description, and who had signed it out (and when); each folder had a serial number and a 'life cycle' (tracked from creation, every issue (and to whom & where, and how it was transported), any amendments, where it was stored, and who was the "owner" of that folder.

Given the latest revelations and your experience, what's your take on the current situation?

[papa smurf]

Popcorn going into microwave for this.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Chris

Unfortunately quite a few of his cheerleaders fall into that category.

He has had these things lying around his house because he’s a narcissist, and a dangerous one at that. Ordinary rules don’t apply because he’s not an ordinary person. It’s sad that so many are content to feed his delusion rather than move on and back someone younger and more balanced to run for the Republican nomination for 2024.

I think, for the republicans, letting Trump run again would be a mistake and damaging. The only other credible candidate appears to be de Santis, but he hasn’t said if he is going to run.

If de Santis doesn’t run, then Trump definitely will …..I think.

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Originally Posted by Damien

If anyone else was found with '7 documents marked top secret' they would be thrown into jail.

H.Clinton had an entire server.

Originally Posted by Pierre

H.Clinton had an entire server.

Yes, and the FBI took it. It's only now it's happened to Trump that suddenly the Republicans are outraged.

If, like Clinton, they find the files he had were not top secret he'll get let off as well.

BREAKING: A federal judge on Monday ordered a halt to the Justice Department’s review of materials seized from former U.S President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate, giving the former President a win, describing a threat to institutions and the risk of media leaks that could cause harm to Trump.

“Plaintiff faces an unquantifiable potential harm by way of improper disclosure of sensitive information to the public,” U.S District Court Judge Aileen Cannon wrote in a 24-page ruling issued on Labor Day. Her order also included the appointment of a special master to review documents to review and assess executive privilege. - CNN

[Russ]

Dammit.

Can’t they just arrest the orange womble anyway? It would make the world a better place.

Originally Posted by Russ

Dammit.

Can’t they just arrest the orange womble anyway? It would make the world a better place.

A Biden DoJ arresting his political opponent, is so Russia like.

In other news, Jamie Foxx does a brill Trump impression.

[Russ]

The man’s a criminal so arresting for anything would be a great start.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mick

A Biden DoJ arresting his political opponent, is so Russia like.

In other news, Jamie Foxx does a brill Trump impression.

That impression's great!

Stepping aside from Trump and Biden. Does that approach effectively mean that the political opponents of a US President can't be arrested for any crimes they conduct if their opponent appoints the DoJ?

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

That impression's great!

Stepping aside from Trump and Biden. Does that approach effectively mean that the political opponents of a US President can't be arrested for any crimes they conduct if their opponent appoints the DoJ?

It’s not legally impossible, just politically, it looks suspect.

Does the DoJ & FBI just walk in to Trump Tower, arrest Trump and not expect any potential riots across the country, Trump still has a huge following?

If so, they’re gonna need something stronger than empty folders with Top secret labels on them.

Well, they had documents with Top Secret, Secret, & SCI classifications, not just empty folders.

Among the items recovered after the unprecedented 8 August search of Mar-a-Lago were:

3 documents marked confidential
17 documents marked secret
7 documents marked top secret
43 empty folders with classified banners
28 empty folders labelled "Return to staff secretary/military aide"

The challenge with the empty folders is "what was in them that now isn’t", and where is that classified information now?

[Mr K]

Highly classified documents seized from Donald Trump’s Florida home contained foreign nuclear secrets so sensitive only a handful of national security officials know of their existence, it has been revealed.

Some of the documents retrieved from Mar-a-Lago by FBI agents last month contain such top-secret information that those viewing them require special clearances, not just top-secret clearance, according to a Washington Post report.

They are so restricted that even some of the Biden administration's senior-most national security officials were not authorised to review them.

Records that deal with such programs are kept under lock and key, almost always in a secure compartmented information facility, underscoring the FBI’s concern that they were being kept at the Florida mansion.

The documents, according to unnamed officials quoted by The Post, described a different nation's ability to attack with nuclear weapons and their ability to defend against similar attacks.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-ne...dly-contained/

Well that's our nuclear deterrent up the spout ! The orange one is after all Putin's best buddy , and described him as a 'smart guy'. He's probably now a well informed guy too....
How would any American consider voting for him? Genuinely puzzled. Mass hysteria, can only last so long...

Hope that wasn’t us!

I mean it's probably Iran as that was a big issue whilst he was President but how stupid do you have to be to keep nuclear secrets at your house?

BREAKING: U.S District Judge denies Department of Justice request for stay in investigation of former President Trump's Mar-a-Lago docs

U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon on Thursday denied the Department of Justice's request for a partial stay of her ruling that limited the government's investigation of how Donald Trump handled sensitive material at his Mar-a-Lago estate, pending a third-party review of what agents found at Trump's home.

Cannon, in issuing her order, said that she was not willing to accept the government's assertions that roughly 100 documents taken from Mar-a-Lago were classified -- even though they were labeled as such, with some bearing "SECRET" and "TOP SECRET/SCI" markings.

Cannon appointed Raymond Dearie, senior district judge for the Eastern District of New York, as special master to help her resolve the matter. (Earlier this week, the DOJ wrote in court papers that it did not object to to Dearie, who was suggested by Trump's legal team.)

"The Court does not find it appropriate to accept the Government’s conclusions on these important and disputed issues without further review by a neutral third party in an expedited and orderly fashion," Cannon wrote in her order.

She approached with heavy skepticism the DOJ's arguments about the documents with classified markings and the government’s claims that Trump has no right to the materials at all.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/judg...ry?id=89966326

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Mick

BREAKING: U.S District Judge denies Department of Justice request for stay in investigation of former President Trump's Mar-a-Lago docs

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/judg...ry?id=89966326

The Judge, appointed by Trump, seems to have a bizarre perception on what Classified documents are and who is allowed to hold them.