06-11-2022, 10:25
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Re: The energy crisis
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-63477214
Interesting is perhaps a stretch but I found this article that documented decades of Government policies - often contradicting the preceding Government - indicative of the lack of long term planning in UK energy policy.
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06-11-2022, 15:31
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Re: The energy crisis
Yeah I read that this morning. We’re just not very good at doing anything whose payoff is likely to lie outside the current electoral cycle. There are loud rumblings that Northern Powerhouse Rail is going to get cancelled - again - despite cancelling it being of no present benefit to the task of dealing with the ruined finances, because much of the building and therefore much of the spending is still several years away.
Plus when it comes to nuclear you can add the article of faith in certain parts of the Left that it’s A Bad Thing, which caused Blair’s government to equivocate on it for too long, and caused the Coalition to vacillate and eventually devise a mucky compromise that suits nobody, and which will for the foreseeable future prevent Scotland from generating any meaningful base load of its own, because the SNP knows that keeping the left-leaning part of its internal coalition happy requires them to disavow it.*
It’s a sad state of affairs that we have had so few people in public life with the strength to do what’s right for the country.
* While energy policy is reserved, the SNP has continually threatened to call in any planning applications HMG might make to any Scottish local authority for building a new nuclear power station. The planning inspectorate in Scotland isn’t an independent body, but … the Scottish government. In theory, wonderfully democratic but in practice just another way of one elected body overriding another. Ironically exactly the same sort of thing the SNP loves to moan about vis a vis Westminster, but that’s another rant.
Last edited by Chris; 06-11-2022 at 15:38.
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06-11-2022, 16:44
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Re: The energy crisis
I’m hugely entertained at the specific mentions for the left, the SNP and the Coalition for Britain’s failings yet the party in Government for 30 of the last 43 (if you include the Coalition years) don’t get one.
Like a Scooby-Doo villain they could have achieved so much if it wasn’t for those pesky kids.
Although I agree with your point - they’re absolutely not going to stand up for what is right.
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06-11-2022, 16:58
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Re: The energy crisis
On the contrary, it ought to be obvious from my discussion Northern Powerhouse Rail that the present incumbents of HMG are highly complicit.
My previous post puts the boot into the present Tory government in the first paragraph, the Labour Left, complacent Cameroons and opportunistic liberals in the second paragraph, and the SNP in the footnote. Which is where I’d prefer the SNP to live permanently but again, that’s another rant.
A plague on all their houses.
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06-11-2022, 23:41
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Re: The energy crisis
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Originally Posted by Chris
Yeah I read that this morning. We’re just not very good at doing anything whose payoff is likely to lie outside the current electoral cycle. There are loud rumblings that Northern Powerhouse Rail is going to get cancelled - again - despite cancelling it being of no present benefit to the task of dealing with the ruined finances, because much of the building and therefore much of the spending is still several years away.
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Northern Powerhouse Rail is perceived to largely benefit Labour-voting areas and Sunak seems has form on moving money towards Conservative-voting ones by changing funding formulas.
So cancelling it wouldn't be a large vote-loser for the Conservatives. Therefore, Northern Powerhouse Rail is not just a victim of short-termism, is also a victim of party politics.
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07-11-2022, 08:35
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Re: The energy crisis
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Originally Posted by Chris
On the contrary, it ought to be obvious from my discussion Northern Powerhouse Rail that the present incumbents of HMG are highly complicit.
My previous post puts the boot into the present Tory government in the first paragraph, the Labour Left, complacent Cameroons and opportunistic liberals in the second paragraph, and the SNP in the footnote. Which is where I’d prefer the SNP to live permanently but again, that’s another rant.
A plague on all their houses.
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07-11-2022, 15:34
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Re: The energy crisis
Email from Bulb.
They need to increase my DD from £93 to £94.17, can't see their logic here as the app says I have a balance of £350.56 but it also says I'm in credit with £191.56.
Atleast they're not trying to up the DD to £150+ I guess.
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07-11-2022, 15:53
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Re: The energy crisis
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Email from Bulb.
They need to increase my DD from £93 to £94.17, can't see their logic here as the app says I have a balance of £350.56 but it also says I'm in credit with £191.56.
Atleast they're not trying to up the DD to £150+ I guess.
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Hopefully you bulb lot will soon switch to the Octopus system and can manage your own direct debit. I assume they will intervene with those who can not manage theirs but those who can do simple maths should be fine
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07-11-2022, 16:04
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Re: The energy crisis
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Originally Posted by Jaymoss
Hopefully you bulb lot will soon switch to the Octopus system and can manage your own direct debit. I assume they will intervene with those who can not manage theirs but those who can do simple maths should be fine
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We can currently manage it with a minimum amount which currently says £84.75? Lol, just surprised they're changing it for me, normally they email and suggest I either lower or raise it.
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07-11-2022, 16:20
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Re: The energy crisis
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Originally Posted by SnoopZ
We can currently manage it with a minimum amount which currently says £84.75? Lol, just surprised they're changing it for me, normally they email and suggest I either lower or raise it.
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Jeez, what do you live in? That's really low.
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07-11-2022, 16:23
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Re: The energy crisis
They might be knocking the Government £66 off.
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07-11-2022, 16:30
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Re: The energy crisis
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Jeez, what do you live in? That's really low.
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2 bed end terrace, currently just me and work shifts of 6am-2pm and 2pm-10pm if that makes a difference with 25 year old conventional boiler, a 9 foot patio window doesn't help in the livingroom that doesn't get the sun.
Just had to switch heating on an hour early on 19c though.
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07-11-2022, 16:33
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Re: The energy crisis
Your boiler is past it's sell-by date, it's probably costing you money, I know they're pretty expensive to get a new one, but, if you can afford it you will save in the long run.
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07-11-2022, 16:36
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Re: The energy crisis
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Originally Posted by Mad Max
Your boiler is past it's sell-by date, it's probably costing you money, I know they're pretty expensive to get a new one, but, if you can afford it you will save in the long run.
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07-11-2022, 16:47
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Re: The energy crisis
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Originally Posted by Mad Max
Your boiler is past it's sell-by date, it's probably costing you money, I know they're pretty expensive to get a new one, but, if you can afford it you will save in the long run.
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I've just had it fixed, had the option to change it at £3000+, I chose not to as happy how the bills are.
How much is your monthly bill on your modern boiler?
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