Voter ID

As a point of information, even though that Victorian Pencil, Rees-Smugg used the term incorrectly - gerrymandering is arranging/changing election districts in a way that gives one political party an unfair advantage, not voter fraud, restricting voting eligibility, or opening up the voting rights to wider participation.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Of course you are delighted, Mr K, that Starmer will gerrymander the kids’ and immigrant vote, possibly, and of course in the name of democracy, hold a referendum to rejoin the EU.

He’s your dream ticket.

One person, one vote. What's wrong with that? Working immigrants pay taxes, so they should have a say. Unlike the leeching pensioners. The young should have more of a say as it will affect the more.
As for EU referendum, its just a matter of time. The tide turned long ago. The selfish old will snuff it. Project Fear has turned out to be a a best case scenario.
(BTW I've never voted Labour, and never will unless our excuse for an electoral system is sorted out to be genuinely representative.)

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Of course you are delighted, Mr K, that Starmer will gerrymander the kids’ and immigrant vote, possibly, and of course in the name of democracy, hold a referendum to rejoin the EU.

He’s your dream ticket.

em even JRM admitted the voter id was a attempt to gerrymander for the tories but thats fine i guess

Jacob Rees-Mogg suggests requiring photo ID to vote was attempt to 'gerrymander' which 'came back to bite' Tories
The government has consistently denied that the reforms were an attempt to help Conservative support in elections, but Mr Rees-Mogg's remarks suggest this is not necessarily the case.

https://news.sky.com/story/jacob-ree...snt-sf-twitter

[Sephiroth]

Both sides like t disguise gerrymandering.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Both sides like t disguise gerrymandering.

Originally Posted by Hugh

As a point of information, even though that Victorian Pencil, Rees-Smugg used the term incorrectly - gerrymandering is arranging/changing election districts in a way that gives one political party an unfair advantage, not voter fraud, restricting voting eligibility, or opening up the voting rights to wider participation.

[Sephiroth]

Usage, Dear. I can't think of a better single word especially when you take into account the manipulation of who ca vote for political outcome purposes.

https://www.nationalworld.com/news/p...define-4143955

Technically, "gerrymandering" refers to the manipulation of electoral boundaries or voting districts to gain a political advantage for a particular party or group. It typically involves strategically redrawing electoral boundaries in a way that concentrates or dilutes certain groups of voters to influence election outcomes.

This can be done by various means, such as packing like-minded voters into a few districts to ensure their dominance or spreading them thinly across multiple districts to weaken their influence. Gerrymandering can also involve dividing communities or manipulating district lines to exclude or include certain populations based on political preferences or demographics.

What's a better single word to describe what Starmer was being accused of in the sense of giving Labour voting advantage?

[noel43]

Originally Posted by Mr K

One person, one vote. What's wrong with that? Working immigrants pay taxes, so they should have a say. Unlike the leeching pensioners. The young should have more of a say as it will affect the more.
As for EU referendum, its just a matter of time. The tide turned long ago. The selfish old will snuff it. Project Fear has turned out to be a a best case scenario.
(BTW I've never voted Labour, and never will unless our excuse for an electoral system is sorted out to be genuinely representative.)

I am one of those leeching pensioners and I pay over £100 a month in tax.

Reading this thread I get the impression some think that the elderly shouldn't have a vote.Personally I think you would all be spending your time more wisely if you encouraged EVERYONE to register to vote and to actually get off their arse and actually go and vote whatever their bloody age.I'd also like to lower the voting age to 16.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Maggy

Reading this thread I get the impression some think that the elderly shouldn't have a vote.Personally I think you would all be spending your time more wisely if you encouraged EVERYONE to register to vote and to actually get off their arse and actually go and vote whatever their bloody age.I'd also like to lower the voting age to 16.

Hear hear!

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Usage, Dear. I can't think of a better single word especially when you take into account the manipulation of who ca vote for political outcome purposes.

https://www.nationalworld.com/news/p...define-4143955

tories gerrymandering which JRM admitted to is all fine right

Originally Posted by Dave42

tories gerrymandering which JRM admitted to is all fine right

tbf, he did post

Both sides like t(o) disguise gerrymandering

[TheDaddy]

Turns out 26000 people were denied their ballot papers at polling stations because they didn't have ID and that's only two thirds of councils reporting so far and the actual figure are bound to be higher as greeters intercepted many people before they got through the doors too

[Hom3r]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Nothing reeks of freedom more than forcing people to take part in the democratic process against their will. I'd give people a small council tax rebate if they vote and increase it if they don't, you could call it the democracy rebate

But how many of these will complain when the government does something they don't like.

Surely by not voting they can't complain?

---------- Post added at 16:37 ---------- Previous post was at 16:33 ----------

Originally Posted by Maggy

Reading this thread I get the impression some think that the elderly shouldn't have a vote.Personally I think you would all be spending your time more wisely if you encouraged EVERYONE to register to vote and to actually get off their arse and actually go and vote whatever their bloody age.I'd also like to lower the voting age to 16.

Personally it should be raised to 21, along with drinking alcohol, as this generation can't seem to decide what gender they are.

Before anyone says anything, my niece is in a same sex relationship, her ex is transitioning to a man, I told her I don't know how to handle this, but I will try and not slip buy saying "her" instead of "him"

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Mr K

One person, one vote. What's wrong with that? https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/w...ill-holding-on Working immigrants pay taxes, so they should have a say. Unlike the leeching pensioners. The young should have more of a say as it will affect the more.
As for EU referendum, its just a matter of time. The tide turned long ago. The selfish old will snuff it. Project Fear has turned out to be a a best case scenario.
(BTW I've never voted Labour, and never will unless our excuse for an electoral system is sorted out to be genuinely representative.)

There’s nothing wrong with that as long as only adults can vote and the person voting has been naturalised.

Under 18s are children, not adults, and by the way should not be allowed to put their lives in danger in the Armed Forces until they are 18.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Hom3r

But how many of these will complain when the government does something they don't like.

Surely by not voting they can't complain?

Sounds good saying that but what about those that spoil their ballot, can't they complain, they have voted after all, just not to change anything

Personally it should be raised to 21, along with drinking alcohol, as this generation can't seem to decide what gender they are.

What all of them?

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Under 18s are children, not adults, and by the way should not be allowed to put their lives in danger in the Armed Forces until they are 18.

They aren't allowed to...