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Old 01-01-2022, 20:34   #406
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Re: Owen Paterson: Anger as Tory MP avoids suspension in rule shake-up
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... Nah - the average person on the Clapham omnibus likes a bit of scandal - and then frowns upon it. Boris is a buffoon and easy to frown upon.
Yes, he’s a buffoon, but people will vote on the basis of what he achieves. That’s all that matters in the end.
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Boris is a bad egg. The average person on the Clapham omnibus would think 'what does the donor want in return for a £58,000 drop?.

The letter of the rules - well maybe Boris wins that; the "seen to be proper" bit is doubtful.
And Lord Get-It said the situation is a total mess, hardly a ringing endorsement of bozo is it, people are seeing bozo and his act for what they really are
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Re: Owen Paterson: Anger as Tory MP avoids suspension in rule shake-up
Why is anyone surprised by anything that's going on boris the buffoon hasn't changed since he joined politics. He's always been a liar, he's always been happy to profit off of his position and he always screwed up more things then he's got right the man has the loyalty and honour of a garden slug he's not doing anything now he hasn't been doing for decades.
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Yes, he’s a buffoon, but people will vote on the basis of what he achieves. That’s all that matters in the end.
People won’t be given another opportunity to vote for Boris and his achievements (or lack thereof). Steve Baker and his goons will see to that.
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People won’t be given another opportunity to vote for Boris and his achievements (or lack thereof). Steve Baker and his goons will see to that.
Biden has more chance of another term than Johnson.
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Re: Owen Paterson: Anger as Tory MP avoids suspension in rule shake-up
Overall, I dont mind him, but I have to agree, his chances of still being PM by the next election seem slimmer now than they ever were.
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Biden has more chance of another term than Johnson.
You've taken that too far..
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Biden has more chance of another term than Johnson.
No way! Johnson is the best choice we have at the moment. Unless the Conservative Party throws him out, he is the one to lead us into the next election, and he will win. There is simply no competition.
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No way! Johnson is the best choice we have at the moment. Unless the Conservative Party throws him out, he is the one to lead us into the next election, and he will win. There is simply no competition.
Truss is far more popular amongst Party members than Johnson. However, she may have slipped up too.

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Liz Truss asked for public money to cover £3,000 lunch

Liz Truss, the current favourite to succeed Boris Johnson as leader of the Conservatives among party members, hosted a lunch at an expensive private club owned by a Tory donor after overruling civil service advice to look for a cheaper venue.

Leaked correspondence has revealed the foreign secretary “refused to consider anywhere else” and asked that public funds should pay for a £3,000 event with Joe Biden’s trade representative.

Civil servants were so concerned at the cost and the venue’s close links to the Tories that the proposal was referred to the most senior official at the Department for International Trade.

According to the correspondence [seen by the Sunday Times], Truss, then the trade secretary, “explicitly asked that we book 5 Hertford Street”, which is owned by Robin Birley, a £20,000 donor to Boris Johnson’s leadership campaign and the half-brother of Zac Goldsmith, the environment minister.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...?ocid=msedgntp
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No way! Johnson is the best choice we have at the moment. Unless the Conservative Party throws him out, he is the one to lead us into the next election, and he will win. There is simply no competition.
I’m not sure he’s the best choice “we” have if even his own party deem him unsuitable to lead.
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I’m not sure he’s the best choice “we” have if even his own party deem him unsuitable to lead.
Well, who then? Not Captain Hindsight, surely?!!
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I'd go for that Kim Jong-un chap, he'd soon sort out crime, internet abuse and unemployment . . . although a trade deal with the USA might be one to miss
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Truss is far more popular amongst Party members than Johnson. However, she may have slipped up too.


https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...?ocid=msedgntp
Oh dear, we are really scraping the barrel now, aren't we?

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Oh yes, he likes to blow up people expressing popular opinions, doesn't he?
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Oh dear, we are really scraping the barrel now, aren't we?

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From what I read in the ST version of this story, she could reasonably have been judged to be trying to support a Tory donor. There really is no other conclusion.

However, I'm satisfied that here civil servants handled this well and brought the price down to something that a political schmooze of this type needs.
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Oh dear, we are really scraping the barrel now, aren't we?
For someone so grievously concerned by the administrative costs of the NHS may I be the first to express my surprise at your causal disregard for a Minister spending thousands from the public purse, at a venue they’ve never used before, that just to happens to be owned by Zac Goldsmith’s brother.

The most pertinent question - it it was all above board - is why the feeble excuse that it was the only venue available at short notice when it obviously was not?

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she could reasonably have been judged to be trying to support a Tory donor. There really is no other conclusion.
Something we’d expect in a banana republic.
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