Britain outside the EU

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Negative to the end, eh, Ianch?

Have patience…

The end? No, this is just the beginning

I will be here to remind the fully signed up members of the Church of Brexit of their delusion and the damage done to this country, it's reputation and it's citizens.

[Carth]

Can't you find employment in the EU then?

Sell up, move out, go and actually belong to the EU you seem to admire?

Surely that must be a better option than remaining here and suffering the hardships Brexit has caused you

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Carth

Can't you find employment in the EU then?

Sell up, move out, go and actually belong to the EU you seem to admire?

Surely that must be a better option than remaining here and suffering the hardships Brexit has caused you

I think you win the prize, this is priceless. You do realise we can no longer live & work abroad in the EU without becoming a resident don't you?

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by ianch99

I think you win the prize, this is priceless. You do realise we can no longer live & work abroad in the EU without becoming a resident don't you?

That's not much of a loyalty bonus is it.

[1andrew1]

There's certainly a lot of work to be done on the interface with the EU and to resolve the NI situation. I hope Johnson starts to engage with business on these matters and act on their input.

I'm also curious as to what Rees-Mogg does in his new role, termed by one wag as the Minister without Portfolio.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

There's certainly a lot of work to be done on the interface with the EU and to resolve the NI situation. I hope Johnson starts to engage with business on these matters and act on their input.

I'm also curious as to what Rees-Mogg does in his new role, termed by one wag as the Minister without Portfolio.

tbf, he’s already got his Brexit Opportunity- his new role…

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by ianch99

I think you win the prize, this is priceless. You do realise we can no longer live & work abroad in the EU without becoming a resident don't you?

We took it as read that you’d love to reside in the EU. You’re always moaning on about this country.

They still have lots of lovely Covid restrictions for your delectation to boot! It’s a no-brainer for someone like you!

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Hugh

tbf, he’s already got his Brexit Opportunity- his new role…

I'm quite pleased he has been given it - if he's so confident of the opportunities then let's see them! However, I suspect it will only be a temporary role, lasting no more than six-months given Johnson's lack of electoral popularity and increasing waiting lists, inflation and fuel prices.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I suspect it will only be a temporary role, lasting no more than six-months given Johnson's lack of electoral popularity and increasing waiting lists, inflation and fuel prices.

Now, that’s funny! A complete conflation of the facts, if ever I saw such a thing!

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

We took it as read that you’d love to reside in the EU. You’re always moaning on about this country.

They still have lots of lovely Covid restrictions for your delectation to boot! It’s a no-brainer for someone like you!

Ah bless ..

I am "moaning" about the corrupt Vote Leave cabal who groomed and deceived enough people to get this grubby little project over the line. The consequences of which will be increasing revealed as the fog of Covid dissipates.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

They still have lots of lovely Covid restrictions for your delectation to boot! It’s a no-brainer for someone like you!

The EU nations all have different approaches. Denmark and Sweden are leading Europe in dismantling their Covid restrictions.
https://www.euronews.com/2022/02/09/...t-restrictions

---------- Post added at 15:29 ---------- Previous post was at 15:27 ----------

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Now, that’s funny! A complete conflation of the facts, if ever I saw such a thing!

Which of those are wrong?

1. "be a temporary role, lasting no more than six-months given Johnson's lack of electoral popularity" Labour remains ahead in the polls and many commentators including Chris on this forum expect him gone in the Summer which will result in a cabinet reshuffle.

2. "increasing waiting lists"

NHS waiting lists will continue to grow for another two years in England, and in some scenarios could more than double to 14mn, despite a tax rise designed to plough an additional £30bn into the service.

https://www.ft.com/content/a3413758-...3-4384f4ca6d11

3. "inflation"

Inflation in the U.K. is at levels not seen for decades, with the latest reading the highest it’s been since March 1992

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/09/brit...gy-crisis.html

4. "Fuel prices." Cap up by 54% this month with Martin Lewis today suggesting a further 20% increase in October
See https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/ne...price-cap-and/


I welcome your evidence-based repudiation of my statement.

[Carth]

Prices will continue to go up indefinitely, too many people, too few resources (and trees)

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Hugh

tbf, he’s already got his Brexit Opportunity- his new role…

And the 7 million quid he's trousered, it'll take us little people years and years to reap the benefits but not him and his chums, who saw it as an opportunity to make super normal returns , makes me wonder why people just accepted that someone like him was on their side and had their best interests at heart

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by ianch99

Ah bless ..

I am "moaning" about the corrupt Vote Leave cabal who groomed and deceived enough people to get this grubby little project over the line. The consequences of which will be increasing revealed as the fog of Covid dissipates.

I and others have said several times that this "grubby little project" as you call it has little to do with the promises made by the leave campaign apart from some exception such as the fishermen (who should be OK in about 4 years' time).

It was about rejection of the "ever closer union" mantra put out by Brussels and the handing of sovereignty over to the ECJ.

A competent government (which we don't have) would get us to a good point sooner. As it is, rolling over EU trade deals and making new ones does not make us worse off in international trade terms. Furthermore, the EU remains our largest trading partner. Why do we need to be a member of the EU?

[Carth]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Why do we need to be a member of the EU?

1) So we could veto many of their silly rule suggestions (that we don't need to veto now because we're out)

2) So many of their vastly experienced work force could come here to work (instead of those experienced people taking a well paid job in on their own country)

3) So we could give them money (which they bung back to us to make them look good)

4) So we can sell them raw products which their manufacturing base can turn into finished products and sell back to us (we need to step up our own industries on this one)


Glad to be of help