Britain outside the EU

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Andrew. Just for you! Enjoy.

https://youtu.be/BbXDeETm-zA

Ha ha. Thanks. That one seems to get circulated every few years. Still a goodie.

[1andrew1]

I think this makes for uncomfortable reading whichever way you went in the referendum.

Brexit causing 'increased costs, paperwork, delays' say MPs

UK firms have been hit by "increased costs, paperwork and border delays" as a result of Brexit, MPs have said.

A report from parliament's spending watchdog, the Public Accounts Committee (PAC), said it "was clear" that leaving the EU was having an impact on UK trade volumes.

It also warned things could worsen this year as new import controls come in.

The government said it continued to ensure businesses "got the support they need to trade effectively with Europe".

"One of the great promises of Brexit was freeing British businesses to give them the headroom to maximise their productivity and contribution to the economy - even more desperately needed now on the long road to recovery from the pandemic," said PAC chair Meg Hillier.

"Yet the only detectable impact so far is increased costs, paperwork and border delays."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60308494

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I think this makes for uncomfortable reading whichever way you went in the referendum.

Nothing we didn't already know, Andrew.

The fruits of Brexit will take a little time to be appreciated - if you expected a major change within two years of leaving, you would have been wildly optimistic.

The initial period, inevitably, must be spent building back to where we were, which means rollover trade deals, implementing all the new arrangements for trade, etc.

Once that is in place, we can start building on that and taking advantage of new opportunities.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Nothing we didn't already know, Andrew.

The fruits of Brexit will take a little time to be appreciated - if you expected a major change within two years of leaving, you would have been wildly optimistic.

The initial period, inevitably, must be spent building back to where we were, which means rollover trade deals, implementing all the new arrangements for trade, etc.

Once that is in place, we can start building on that and taking advantage of new opportunities.

If you read the article, and the tales of businesses trying to export to the EU, you will hear a somewhat different story.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Nothing we didn't already know, Andrew.

The fruits of Brexit will take a little time to be appreciated - if you expected a major change within two years of leaving, you would have been wildly optimistic.

The initial period, inevitably, must be spent building back to where we were, which means rollover trade deals, implementing all the new arrangements for trade, etc.

Once that is in place, we can start building on that and taking advantage of new opportunities.

Utter fantasy

[Carth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

If you read the article, and the tales of businesses trying to export to the EU, you will hear a somewhat different story.

Just read it . . . "tales of businesses trying to export to the EU" that Andrew alludes to is just one business:

Mary Quicke, an artisan cheesemaker based in Devon

The rest is just a report by the 'parliament's spending watchdog, the Public Accounts Committee (PAC)' . . repeating ad infinitum what we already know

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Carth

Just read it . . . "tales of businesses trying to export to the EU" that Andrew alludes to is just one business:

he rest is just a report by the 'parliament's spending watchdog, the Public Accounts Committee (PAC)' . . repeating ad infinitum what we already know

I advised Old Boy to read the article and the tales of businesses trying to export to the EU.

Good to see you acknowledge the increased costs and delays. We need to improve matters as more checks are coming up in the summer.

[Carth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I advised Old Boy to read the article and the tales of businesses trying to export to the EU.

Same applies, businesses still moaning about stuff they've been moaning about for ages, nothing new

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Carth

Same applies, businesses still moaning about stuff they've been moaning about for ages, nothing new

I think an independent enquiry like this one carries quite a bit of weight to it.

[Carth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I think an independent enquiry like this one carries quite a bit of weight to it.

An independent enquiry that's taken months - if not years - to reach the same findings as everone else has know for years?

Stop trying to sidestep the fact it's old news

[Hom3r]

I still say remainers, because other words would get me a ban.


They ain't worth a ban.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Carth

An independent enquiry that's taken months - if not years - to reach the same findings as everone else has know for years?

Stop trying to sidestep the fact it's old news

It's making the front pages of news websites which suggests to me it's news.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

If you read the article, and the tales of businesses trying to export to the EU, you will hear a somewhat different story.

I read the article, thanks. It changes nothing. We have a wider world out there, the EU is not the be all and end all.

[daveeb]

Originally Posted by Hom3r

I still say remainers, because other words would get me a ban.


They ain't worth a ban.

Thanks for the valuable insight

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by ianch99

Utter fantasy

Negative to the end, eh, Ianch?

Have patience…