Police to get tough on internet trolls.

[GrimUpNorth]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Whether past posts are inspected or not is entirely down to you.

I didn't realise that you had continued to contact me for a further six years, despite being asked not to.

Your ridiculous responses truly show that you don't have a clue about the breadth and severity of the widely varying neuro diverse range of conditions and the potential effects of continuing with your remarks, despite being told about them.

It concerns me greatly that you appear to genuinely believe that your behaviour is appropriate and acceptable.

I suggest that, in order to put this to bed, the best thing for everybody involved is for you to accept an offer of training (arranged in conjunction with your employer. The breaches of the law and of their own diversity policies don't have to be mentioned- the aim is to educate, not punish you), or for you to voluntarily desist with your misinformed and offensive remarks going forward.

Richard, I think you're starting to loose the plot.

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Originally Posted by Mythica

Or just block him, but that's too easy isn't it. As you'd not get to use words such as desist or legal action. How many people have you personally threatened with legal action on forums? Funny thing is, whilst I've had some arguments on these forums, not once have I ever been threatened with legal action (apart from you) or have I ever needed to threaten legal action to someone.

The one common problem in all of this seems to be you and I have a very funny feeling that your disability plays no part in that.

Couldn't agree more.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

No one would know an author's views on transgender issues unless that author was extremely well-known and spoke about them. And people protesting against an unknown author's views would get little media coverage so serve little purpose.

Publishers are pretty keen on the freedom of publication

You are either very naive or ignorant on this particular subject…...which is absolutely fine. I’ll wait until you catch up or not, doesn’t really matter, but no point in continuing based on that reply.

Mein Kampf is still published in English, for example.

Proof of the above.

[RichardCoulter]

One of my carers has just found this on the internet from Citizens Advice, who have produced this easy to read document about the subject of disability discrimination.

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/la...iscrimination/

[RichardCoulter]

A couple of programmes from a series about the 1990's that has been on Radio 4 this week.

They cover the problems caused by the emergence of the wild west approach to the rise of the internet (the law of the land didn't suddenly disappear on the day the internet was invented) and the consequences of breaking the law:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0016xvj

Robert Carlyle takes us back to a time when the internet seemed like a force for good and reveals how that Utopian ideal turned sour.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0016y5m

The story of the so-called crypto-wars, the fight for online privacy between the American government and a bunch of internet renegades known as the cypherpunks.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Who are "they"?

The wokes. Have you been following?

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Mythica

Or just block him, but that's too easy isn't it. As you'd not get to use words such as desist or legal action. How many people have you personally threatened with legal action on forums? Funny thing is, whilst I've had some arguments on these forums, not once have I ever been threatened with legal action (apart from you) or have I ever needed to threaten legal action to someone.

The one common problem in all of this seems to be you and I have a very funny feeling that your disability plays no part in that.

I guess that it must also be approximately 6 years since I asked you to stop contacting or mentioning me, would you agree?

This is what the Equality and Human Rights Commission has to say about inappropriate assumptions or remarks about a person's disability:

Disability-related harassment is unwanted, exploitative or abusive conduct against disabled people which has the purpose or effect of either: violating the dignity, safety, security or autonomy of the person experiencing it, or. creating an intimidating, hostile, degrading or offensive environment.

[Mythica]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

I guess that it must also be approximately 6 years since I asked you to stop contacting or mentioning me, would you agree?

This is what the Equality and Human Rights Commission has to say about inappropriate assumptions or remarks about a person's disability:

You live in a fantasy world. I'll 'contact' you when I want on here, it's a public forum. If you don't like the way public forums work, bugger off instead of trying to silence people. You have the tools at your finger tips to instantly block people.

I see the actual main part of the message flew over your head. Have you ever thought the problem is you and not your disability.

[GrimUpNorth]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

One of my carers has just found this on the internet from Citizens Advice, who have produced this easy to read document about the subject of disability discrimination.

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/la...iscrimination/

Nice read, thank you.

A few things did spring to mind while I was reading it. Did one of you carers really find it for you - a little voice that often whispers to me is today shouting it smells BS. I'm also surprised you didn't already know about it as part of your crusading armoury.

Another thing, it's so similar to another guide they've produced (could even been a find and replace in their favourite text editor) you should have a read of the other guide as it might educate you and stop you falling foul of the law in the future. Here's a link.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Publishers are pretty keen on the freedom of publication. Mein Kampf is still published in English, for example.

Not sure this is a great example.

I don't know if it actually is still published but if it is it'll be for historical reference/education and likely prefaced with an explanation as to why it's being published. Probably not for general sale either.

I don't think any publishers would touch a modern-day equivalent of Mein Kampf and rightly so.

That said quite a lot of things do get published and oftentimes these stories of people getting their book dropped find themselves another publisher. At the moment 'anti-woke' books seem to be a genre of it's own. If you find someone online/on tv railing against being cancelled chances are it's because they have a book or upcoming tour to promote.

I think we need to revisit exactly what an internet troll is?

[Carth]

Originally Posted by Maggy

I think we need to revisit exactly what an internet troll is?

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Mythica

You live in a fantasy world. I'll 'contact' you when I want on here, it's a public forum. If you don't like the way public forums work, bugger off instead of trying to silence people. You have the tools at your finger tips to instantly block people.

I see the actual main part of the message flew over your head. Have you ever thought the problem is you and not your disability.

Your further comments have been noted.

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Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth

Nice read, thank you.

A few things did spring to mind while I was reading it. Did one of you carers really find it for you - a little voice that often whispers to me is today shouting it smells BS. I'm also surprised you didn't already know about it as part of your crusading armoury.

Another thing, it's so similar to another guide they've produced (could even been a find and replace in their favourite text editor) you should have a read of the other guide as it might educate you and stop you falling foul of the law in the future. Here's a link.

No idea what you are talking about, you need to be concise and clear when dealing with the neuro diverse. Hints, riddles etc simply do not work. Again, i'm surprised that you weren't aware of this.

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Originally Posted by Maggy

I think we need to revisit exactly what an internet troll is?

It can mean various things, though this would come under the offence of deliberately spreading misinformation:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3ct3bqr

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Originally Posted by Carth

If you look back further up, since you last posted in this thread, I did actually request an apology from you as your remarks upset and offended me greatly.

[Mythica]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Your further comments have been noted.

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No idea what you are talking about, you need to be concise and clear when dealing with the neuro diverse. Hints, riddles etc simply do not work. Again, i'm surprised that you weren't aware of this.

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It can mean various things, though this would come under the offence of deliberately spreading misinformation:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3ct3bqr

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If you look back further up, since you last posted in this thread, I did actually request an apology from you as your remarks upset and offended me greatly.

Note them all you like, you won't bully me into shutting up.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Mythica

Note them all you like, you won't bully me into shutting up.

How odd that you view the Harrassment Act as 'bullying someone to shut up'.

There is someone on here who I thought was deeply unpleasant, until it was brought to my attention that he had a learning difficulty and other multiple mental disabilities too.

These conditions affect the thought process, perception and the ability to communicate effectively, so this must be taken into account.

You have previously declared a disability, but chose not to confirm how this affects you.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Your further comments have been noted.

My warning to you clearly was not, you are suspended for 2 weeks.

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Originally Posted by Maggy

I think we need to revisit exactly what an internet troll is?

Originally Posted by Wikipedia

In internet slang, a troll is a person who posts inflammatory, insincere, digressive, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as social media, a newsgroup, forum, chat room, online video game, or blog), with the intent of provoking readers into displaying emotional responses.