02-07-2023, 10:11
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Re: The energy crisis
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Originally Posted by Ms NTL
Leccy tomorrow 8am-6pm , negative all the time up to -15p, All I can do is switch all lights on.....
Hovering, washing, mowing, emersion heater, washing, drying all done today.....with a miserable -2p leccy.
Agile Octopus.
My kids just told me :Southampton -19p/Kwh Bournemouth -24p/Kwh
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I'll be seriously considering Agile when my fix is coming to an end.
One of the selling points for Octopus was that you are never tied into a fixed contract which hopefully includes the Agile tracker?
I'm also assuming Agile doesn't include a gas element so I will just have to sort out what is the best deal for my gas useage.
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02-07-2023, 10:16
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#2297
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cf.mega poster
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Up North - Where It's Grim
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Re: The energy crisis
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Originally Posted by spiderplant
And making me more peeved about not having working ones.
I have mentioned before how we have had them for years but they never worked because they couldn't get a mobile signal. Anyway, EDF recently contacted us to say they wanted to replace them with the next generation meters to solve the problem. Yay.
Anyway, on Tuesday man comes out to do it. Took a look at our appliances, including 23-year old boiler, and warned we might not be able to relight it if he swaps the meter. He also said the new meter wasn't compatible with gas fires over 7kW (though I don't think ours is). Then we mentioned the mobile signal problem. He replied "in that case, these ones won't work either". And with that, he was gone.
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That'll teach you to be part of the landed gentry living in the middle of nowhere!!
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15-07-2023, 02:38
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#2298
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cf.geek
Join Date: Sep 2022
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Re: The energy crisis
No email from Octopus!
Saturday, electricity is free , negative (-5p 10-12am) or a couple of pence between 9am and 4 pm.
Check your account (postcode dependant)
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15-07-2023, 11:03
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#2299
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Woke and proud !
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Re: The energy crisis
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Originally Posted by Ms NTL
No email from Octopus!
Saturday, electricity is free , negative (-5p 10-12am) or a couple of pence between 9am and 4 pm.
Check your account (postcode dependant)
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All sounds rather complicated. I just read my meter occasionally and they send a bill.
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16-07-2023, 00:48
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Re: The energy crisis
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Originally Posted by Mr K
All sounds rather complicated. I just read my meter occasionally and they send a bill.
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Indeed it sounds complicated, we plan but not to the last penny.
For example electricity is free or negative tonight 12 until 4pm tomorrow. We will try to do it when is -10p, but we are lazy.... Free is good enough.
My leccy bills are down 70%
Some of our machines use wifi switches (13 quid from amazon), they just run at the cheapest times automatically following octopus data.
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16-07-2023, 10:19
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Re: The energy crisis
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Originally Posted by Ms NTL
Some of our machines use wifi switches (13 quid from amazon), they just run at the cheapest times automatically following octopus data.
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Nice idea, but what appliances can you use like this? All our heavy users (dishwasher, washing machine, tumble dryer) need a button pressing to start them.
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16-07-2023, 10:25
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Just a Geek
Join Date: Jul 2015
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Re: The energy crisis
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Originally Posted by spiderplant
Nice idea, but what appliances can you use like this? All our heavy users (dishwasher, washing machine, tumble dryer) need a button pressing to start them.
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You can get switchbots
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16-07-2023, 12:20
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Re: The energy crisis
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Originally Posted by spiderplant
Nice idea, but what appliances can you use like this? All our heavy users (dishwasher, washing machine, tumble dryer) need a button pressing to start them.
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Most modern white goods have a time delay feature. As far as possible, our dishwasher only ever runs during the daytime, at a time of day I know the solar panels are likely to be generating what it needs.
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16-07-2023, 13:38
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#2304
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cf.geek
Join Date: Sep 2022
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Re: The energy crisis
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Originally Posted by Chris
Most modern white goods have a time delay feature. As far as possible, our dishwasher only ever runs during the daytime, at a time of day I know the solar panels are likely to be generating what it needs.
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I use the above
---------- Post added at 13:35 ---------- Previous post was at 13:35 ----------
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Originally Posted by spiderplant
Nice idea, but what appliances can you use like this? All our heavy users (dishwasher, washing machine, tumble dryer) need a button pressing to start them.
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On the dryer and dishwasher I use this
https://www.amazon.co.uk/BG-Electric...ps%2C85&sr=8-5
---------- Post added at 13:38 ---------- Previous post was at 13:35 ----------
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Originally Posted by Jaymoss
You can get switchbots
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And my son is planning to use this
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fingerbot-C...ps%2C82&sr=8-7
using artificial skin (available on amazon) the washing machine has a touch button. Currently I use the delay button.
But if you avoid heavy use 4-7pm, with no gadgets, then you save 40-50% . Using the delay button you save 60%....
Last edited by Ms NTL; 16-07-2023 at 13:49.
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16-07-2023, 15:00
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#2305
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Sulking in the Corner
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Re: The energy crisis
What is this country coming to? Smart meters put you at the mercy of the profit making utility providers. Conservatives shouldn’t have stooped so low. (Same with water).
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16-07-2023, 21:10
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Re: The energy crisis
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
What is this country coming to? Smart meters put you at the mercy of the profit making utility providers. Conservatives shouldn’t have stooped so low. (Same with water).
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Great for shareholders and dividends. Stuff the consumer or providing an essential public service. It's typically Conservative and what they're about.
You need to re evalue your blind support if you think otherwise.
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17-07-2023, 05:56
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Re: The energy crisis
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Originally Posted by Mr K
Great for shareholders and dividends. Stuff the consumer or providing an essential public service. It's typically Conservative and what they're about.
You need to re evalue your blind support if you think otherwise.
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Exactly as its free market capitalism as what else would one expect.
Profit will always come first before us the customer.
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17-07-2023, 06:52
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Sulking in the Corner
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Re: The energy crisis
Free market capitalism is fine rxcept as regards the utilities.
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17-07-2023, 09:16
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Woke and proud !
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Re: The energy crisis
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
Free market capitalism is fine rxcept as regards the utilities.
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Yes, worked brilliantly for the railways.
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17-07-2023, 15:04
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cf.geek
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Re: The energy crisis
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
What is this country coming to? Smart meters put you at the mercy of the profit making utility providers. Conservatives shouldn’t have stooped so low. (Same with water).
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Read this
https://reneweconomy.com.au/this-is-...newables-soar/
There is oversupply of electricity on windy and sunny days in the UK.
https://winderful.uk/
Too much hydro electricity in Norway after rainy days or snow melting. Many countries cannot sell it. I was told the transformers cannot cope with oversupply of leccy. All of us have to shift electricity use and find ways to store it.
Octopus makes 100% profit on Agile leccy, I gave the public formula above. On standard tariffs, they have to play the future markets: some companies win, but many, many went belly up.
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