Owen Paterson: Anger as Tory MP avoids suspension in rule shake-up
09-11-2021, 22:11
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Re: Owen Paterson: Anger as Tory MP avoids suspension in rule shake-up
20,000 majority - probably fairly safe…
Careful Old Boy doesn’t chastise you for being "off topic"…. 
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09-11-2021, 23:04
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Re: Owen Paterson: Anger as Tory MP avoids suspension in rule shake-up
https://twitter.com/hzeffman/status/1458201451176550409
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EXCL: Sir Geoffrey Cox is tonight being referred to the standards commissioner by Labour after he appeared to use his Commons office to represent the British Virgin Islands in a corruption case against the UK government
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A sitting MP, using his office and time, to represent a case against the Government he is serving as an MP!
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09-11-2021, 23:30
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Re: Owen Paterson: Anger as Tory MP avoids suspension in rule shake-up
Suspect the Mail and Express won’t let up until they get their man.
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09-11-2021, 23:33
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Re: Owen Paterson: Anger as Tory MP avoids suspension in rule shake-up
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It's called treason in my book, corruption is too minor a term!
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Suspect the Mail and Express won’t let up until they get their man.
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Who is their man? Cox or Johnson?
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09-11-2021, 23:33
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Re: Owen Paterson: Anger as Tory MP avoids suspension in rule shake-up
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It's called treason in my book, corruption is too minor a term!
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Who is their man? Cox or Johnson?
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guess Johnson as both turned against him
here another headling against a tory MP
Iain Duncan Smith accused of ‘brazen conflict of interest’ over £25,000 job
Iain Duncan Smith accused of ‘brazen conflict of interest’ over £25,000 job
Ex-Tory leader chaired government taskforce that recommended new rules benefiting firm he was employed by
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...over-25000-job
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09-11-2021, 23:48
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Re: Owen Paterson: Anger as Tory MP avoids suspension in rule shake-up
Johnson.
My prediction is this drip drip drip of corruption stories will continue for some time. There’s probably a number of backbenchers wondering if they will be next and would prefer that the dogs get called off. Or fed a big fat useless slab of meat to placate them.
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guess Johnson as both turned against him
here another headling against a tory MP
Iain Duncan Smith accused of ‘brazen conflict of interest’ over £25,000 job
Iain Duncan Smith accused of ‘brazen conflict of interest’ over £25,000 job
Ex-Tory leader chaired government taskforce that recommended new rules benefiting firm he was employed by
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...over-25000-job |
Might be easier if they just published a list of who doesn’t have their hand in the till.
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10-11-2021, 00:17
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Re: Owen Paterson: Anger as Tory MP avoids suspension in rule shake-up
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This has all been an hysterical over-reaction and the PM had more important prior engagements. He will be there for PMQs on Wednesday anyway, so I'm sure the Opposition will have plenty of time to harangue him over this then.
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PMQs is not happening this week, Old Boy
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He was back in London in time to have made the debate.
https://twitter.com/TD_Hancock/statu...08467670720517
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10-11-2021, 01:16
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20,000 majority - probably fairly safe…
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He might not even get the restriction on his bankruptcy, it's only if he's found to have been dishonest or corrupt it's applied, even so it's yet another one up to his neck in the brown stuff
I couldn't care less what that guy says or does, I got bored of his nonsense, his misunderstanding things and his misrepresentation of posts so I just ignore him now, life's to short to have his dull, boring bs in it
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10-11-2021, 09:33
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Re: Owen Paterson: Anger as Tory MP avoids suspension in rule shake-up
The LABOUR MPs with second jobs: David Lammy has earned £141,000 in three years for speeches at Google, Facebook, City corporations and media appearances while Keir Starmer pocketed £25k for legal advice
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ree-years.html
Other Labour MPs with second jobs include Khalid Mahmood, MP for Birmingham Perry Bar, who advises think-tank the Policy Exchange on issues including extremism for £25,000 a year.
Margaret Hodge has a £20,000-a-year role at Royal Holloway University and Dan Jarvis is paid £79,000 to serve as Metro Mayor of the Sheffield City Region.
Meanwhile, Christ Bryant received £2,000 for speaking at an event for Goldman Sachs.
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10-11-2021, 09:43
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The LABOUR MPs with second jobs: David Lammy has earned £141,000 in three years for speeches at Google, Facebook, City corporations and media appearances while Keir Starmer pocketed £25k for legal advice
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ree-years.html
Other Labour MPs with second jobs include Khalid Mahmood, MP for Birmingham Perry Bar, who advises think-tank the Policy Exchange on issues including extremism for £25,000 a year.
Margaret Hodge has a £20,000-a-year role at Royal Holloway University and Dan Jarvis is paid £79,000 to serve as Metro Mayor of the Sheffield City Region.
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The Dan Jarvis one is my favourite. He’s been elected to two jobs, and been re-elected to the first one in 2019 having taken the second one in in 2018.
Not the best example of whataboutery it’s not like he trousered 400 grand advising a tax haven on how to win a legal case against the UK.
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10-11-2021, 09:46
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Re: Owen Paterson: Anger as Tory MP avoids suspension in rule shake-up
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The Dan Jarvis one is my favourite. He’s been elected to two jobs, and been re-elected to the first one in 2019 having taken the second one in in 2018.
Not the best example of whataboutery it’s not like he trousered 400 grand advising a tax haven on how to win a legal case against the UK.
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Unlike your good self i am just an unbiased observer of this subject.
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10-11-2021, 10:07
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Re: Owen Paterson: Anger as Tory MP avoids suspension in rule shake-up
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The Dan Jarvis one is my favourite. He’s been elected to two jobs, and been re-elected to the first one in 2019 having taken the second one in in 2018.
Not the best example of whataboutery it’s not like he trousered 400 grand advising a tax haven on how to win a legal case against the UK.
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It raises another valid question - should someone be alllowed to do a Boris Johnson and Dan Jarvis and be both an MP and Mayor?
Johnson's reaction to the corruption scandals is to target the mask sceptics by not wearing one on his Monday hospital visit and try and do a Henry V and pick a fight with France to distract people.
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Unlike your good self i am just an unbiased observer of this subject.
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Sorry to break this to you. Everyone on this forum including you, me and jfman: We're all biased. 
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10-11-2021, 10:11
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Re: Owen Paterson: Anger as Tory MP avoids suspension in rule shake-up
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Unlike your good self i am just an unbiased observer of this subject.
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You should be a politician - you managed to say that without laughing... 
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10-11-2021, 10:36
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Re: Owen Paterson: Anger as Tory MP avoids suspension in rule shake-up
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It raises another valid question - should someone be alllowed to do a Boris Johnson and Dan Jarvis and be both an MP and Mayor?
Johnson's reaction to the corruption scandals is to target the mask sceptics by not wearing one on his Monday hospital visit and try and do a Henry V and pick a fight with France to distract people.
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Sorry to break this to you. Everyone on this forum including you, me and jfman: We're all biased. |
I'm inclined to think someone being elected to two public offices as less of a conflict of interest than Owen Paterson, Geoffrey Cox, IDS in the pockets of corporations and tax havens. Then having the gall to claim they can't live on £81k while cutting benefits and raising taxes.
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10-11-2021, 11:06
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Re: Owen Paterson: Anger as Tory MP avoids suspension in rule shake-up
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I'm inclined to think someone being elected to two public offices as less of a conflict of interest than Owen Paterson, Geoffrey Cox, IDS in the pockets of corporations and tax havens. Then having the gall to claim they can't live on £81k while cutting benefits and raising taxes.
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Yes - giving legal advice against the British government whilst serving as an MP is treason in my book.
IDS chairing a committee that makes decisions that impact an organisation he works for is corruption.
Funny how many jobs in the real world for far less money than MPs' salaries are exclusive contracts so you can't work for anyone else. Yet for those who govern us, such rules don't apply. 
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