31-10-2022, 18:38
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The Dark Satanic Mills
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Re: The energy crisis
Well for electric, if you remember the old ones that had the spinning disc you could get a a very thin piece of metal through the casing that would stop the wheel from turning.
Gas was more fun, we just took the meter off and turned it around so it ran backwards. They got wise to that and put a plate on the back so you couldn’t do it.
Temp solution was to take off the meter attach the hoover to it and run it backwards, but that was too much messing about. So we acquired a 2nd meter from a derelict house and just swapped them over as and when.
Had to be done, could still be done today. But a smart meter would deny you any options.
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31-10-2022, 18:41
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Re: The energy crisis
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Originally Posted by Pierre
Well for electric, if you remember the old ones that had the spinning disc you could get a a very thin piece of metal through the casing that would stop the wheel from turning.
Gas was more fun, we just took the meter off and turned it around so it ran backwards. They got wise to that and put a plate on the back so you couldn’t do it.
Temp solution was to take off the meter attach the hoover to it and run it backwards, but that was too much messing about. So we acquired a 2nd meter from a derelict house and just swapped them over as and when.
Had to be done, could still be done today. But a smart meter would deny you any options.
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You are Joey Boswell and I claim my £5 
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31-10-2022, 18:52
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laeva recumbens anguis
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Re: The energy crisis
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Originally Posted by Chris
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31-10-2022, 21:47
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Re: The energy crisis
Well, the software offers the thieves a large time window opportunity to do a burglary. Of course, you can ring the bell as JW to check if it is empty
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31-10-2022, 21:49
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laeva recumbens anguis
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Re: The energy crisis
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Originally Posted by Ms NTL
Well, the software offers the thieves a large time window opportunity to do a burglary. Of course, you can ring the bell as JW to check if it is empty
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Do you have evidence / a link to support the assertion that the thieves can breach the software security, please?
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01-11-2022, 09:48
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Re: The energy crisis
Comparing my bill with Bulb for October compared to September it has increased 23%, I'll likely increase my direct debit.
Not had my Energy Support credit yet in yet, last month got it on the 1st.
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01-11-2022, 11:00
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Re: The energy crisis
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Originally Posted by Pierre
Well for electric, if you remember the old ones that had the spinning disc you could get a a very thin piece of metal through the casing that would stop the wheel from turning.
Gas was more fun, we just took the meter off and turned it around so it ran backwards. They got wise to that and put a plate on the back so you couldn’t do it.
Temp solution was to take off the meter attach the hoover to it and run it backwards, but that was too much messing about. So we acquired a 2nd meter from a derelict house and just swapped them over as and when.
Had to be done, could still be done today. But a smart meter would deny you any options.
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No, it didn't have to be done. Theft is theft. And theft increases the cost to everyone else.
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01-11-2022, 12:20
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The Dark Satanic Mills
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Re: The energy crisis
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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh
No, it didn't have to be done. Theft is theft. And theft increases the cost to everyone else.
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I think the energy companies (in fact I think they were still nationalised back then) so the government, would have been able to shoulder it.
Just as if anyone was doing it now.
I think BP's shareholders could handle it.
https://www.theguardian.com/business...-business-live
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01-11-2022, 12:29
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Re: The energy crisis
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Originally Posted by Pierre
I think the energy companies (in fact I think they were still nationalised back then) so the government, would have been able to shoulder it.
Just as if anyone was doing it now.
I think BP's shareholders could handle it.
https://www.theguardian.com/business...-business-live |
Maybe I'll got and steal an OLED TV from a mutli millionaires house, as I'm sure they could shoulder the cost of replacing it.....
What's the difference? 
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01-11-2022, 12:31
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Re: The energy crisis
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Originally Posted by SnoopZ
Maybe I'll got and steal an OLED TV from a mutli millionaires house, as I'm sure they could shoulder the cost of replacing it.....
What's the difference? |
You wont freeze without a tv
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01-11-2022, 12:44
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Re: The energy crisis
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
You wont freeze without a tv
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01-11-2022, 12:50
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Re: The energy crisis
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
You wont freeze without a tv
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How many of them actually had electric heating?
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01-11-2022, 12:52
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Re: The energy crisis
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Originally Posted by Pierre
I think the energy companies (in fact I think they were still nationalised back then) so the government, would have been able to shoulder it.
Just as if anyone was doing it now.
I think BP's shareholders could handle it.
https://www.theguardian.com/business...-business-live |
C'mon Pierre, the Government doesn't have its own money; it has our money. You were warm at the expense of ordinary people, some of whom were aged and huddled under blankets because their decency was their penalty.
Many here will understand what you are saying but it can't be condoned, and I think you are man enough to admit fiddling with meters is poor form.
You were a very naughty boy (but we still love you ).
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01-11-2022, 12:54
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Re: The energy crisis
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Originally Posted by SnoopZ
Maybe I'll got and steal an OLED TV from a mutli millionaires house, as I'm sure they could shoulder the cost of replacing it.....
What's the difference? |
Ethically stealing from a person results in a clear, direct loss to that individual.
Stealing from companies where the price bears no resemblance to the cost of production there’s no evidence that impacts on the price for anyone.
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01-11-2022, 13:04
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Re: The energy crisis
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Originally Posted by jfman
Ethically stealing from a person results in a clear, direct loss to that individual.
Stealing from companies where the price bears no resemblance to the cost of production there’s no evidence that impacts on the price for anyone.
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But stealing is wrong, right?
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