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20-05-2022, 17:35
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
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So it’s the Labour Government’s fault for the global financial crisis of 2008 but this Government are a victim of circumstance at every turn.
Utterly utterly laughable, OB. So ridiculous it’d be impossible to parody.
The fact the UK Labour Party are marketing themselves as slightly less shit than the Tories is irrelevant to the fact Johnson is leading the party and the country in a car crash manner.
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The crash itself, of course, was not Labour’s fault. But spending all the money during the good times while failing to put anything away for the bad times was reckless. It took the austerity measures to put us towards where we should have been, and just as well, otherwise the Treasury would not have been able to make all those payouts in respect of the Covid measures.
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20-05-2022, 18:06
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
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The crash itself, of course, was not Labour’s fault. But spending all the money during the good times while failing to put anything away for the bad times was reckless. It took the austerity measures to put us towards where we should have been, and just as well, otherwise the Treasury would not have been able to make all those payouts in respect of the Covid measures.
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Pray, tell, OB just where in the national accounts does it show savings in austerity paid for Covid financial support given every single year since austerity began the national debt as went up as a percentage of GDP?
They really pulled the wool over your eyes with the pretence that a national budget and a household budget are the same didn’t they?
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20-05-2022, 22:22
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
This topic needs get back on track, now.
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21-05-2022, 06:54
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
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Labour has called on Boris Johnson to "urgently explain" why he met Sue Gray to discuss her long-awaited report into lockdown-breaking parties in Downing Street.
The pair discussed where Ms Gray believed the Metropolitan Police were with the inquiry, and Whitehall's understanding of where the police were on interviews, Sky News understands.
The revelation of an undisclosed meeting is likely to trigger surprise given the forthcoming report has repeatedly been described as independent.
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https://news.sky.com/story/sue-gray-...tands-12617829
Now the Metropolitan Police has reported, a reminder that a Parliamentary investigation begins now into whether whether Johnson misled MPs over Partygate.
https://news.sky.com/story/downing-s...ygate-12595185
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21-05-2022, 07:03
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
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Talking of misleading parliament, didn’t curry and beer organiser, Starmer mislead parliament when he was forced to backtrack on accusations made in the House of Commons, about Johnson and the BBC?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2062341.html
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21-05-2022, 09:15
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
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https://news.sky.com/story/sue-gray-...tands-12617829
Now the Metropolitan Police has reported, a reminder that a Parliamentary investigation begins now into whether whether Johnson misled MPs over Partygate.
[url ]https://news.sky.com/story/downing-street-parties-boris-johnson-to-face-investigation-into-whether-he-misled-mps-about-partygate-12595185[/url]
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That link dates back to 22 April!
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21-05-2022, 09:22
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
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That link dates back to 22 April!
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21-05-2022, 09:32
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
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But twisted knickers do. Anyway, roll on Sue Gray.
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21-05-2022, 09:39
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
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But twisted knickers do. Anyway, roll on Sue Gray.
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Looks like her boss has been to see her https://news.sky.com/story/sue-gray-...tands-12617829
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21-05-2022, 10:07
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
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He commissioned the report, has asked for full transparency, just another desperate media ploy by idiots trying to oust the PM. I don’t really think any report will be detrimental to Johnson’s premiership, because lurking in the background is a beer and curry organiser, potentially also facing a fine.
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21-05-2022, 10:32
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
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He commissioned the report, has asked for full transparency, just another desperate media ploy by idiots trying to oust the PM. I don’t really think any report will be detrimental to Johnson’s premiership, because lurking in the background is a beer and curry organiser, potentially also facing a fine.
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It's from his side that they're saying he simply asked for full transparency. Since Johnson isn't exactly known for his honesty that'll be treated with caution.
Besides the wisest thing to do with an Independent report is to avoid secret meetings with who you tasked to make it. It's going to raise eyebrows even if it was innocent.
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21-05-2022, 10:43
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
If he lies to his wives, lies (and denies) about his children, lies in his leadership campaign, lies in the party manifesto, lies to Parliament, lies to our international partners - it's quite astonishing that the people who think we are better off without Johnson are the idiots.
A Tory leader of even moderate competence, with limited credibility, right now would surely be better to lead us through the cost of living crisis?
They're not a football team - the personal affinity some seem to have for Johnson (especially given his personal flaws outlined in sentence one) is quite astonishing. What makes people believe he will lie to everyone else but not them?
This is the man that had two versions of the story ready to go in favour of remaining and leaving the EU until he decided which was the most politically expedient for his career aspirations.
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21-05-2022, 11:37
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
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The BBC understands that Ms Gray requested the meeting with Mr Johnson over a month ago "to clarify her intentions" for what would happen after the completion of the police inquiry.
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21-05-2022, 12:05
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
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If he lies to his wives, lies (and denies) about his children, lies in his leadership campaign, lies in the party manifesto, lies to Parliament, lies to our international partners - it's quite astonishing that the people who think we are better off without Johnson are the idiots.
A Tory leader of even moderate competence, with limited credibility, right now would surely be better to lead us through the cost of living crisis?
They're not a football team - the personal affinity some seem to have for Johnson (especially given his personal flaws outlined in sentence one) is quite astonishing. What makes people believe he will lie to everyone else but not them?
This is the man that had two versions of the story ready to go in favour of remaining and leaving the EU until he decided which was the most politically expedient for his career aspirations.
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Pretty much so.
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21-05-2022, 12:23
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
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It's from his side that they're saying he simply asked for full transparency. Since Johnson isn't exactly known for his honesty that'll be treated with caution.
Besides the wisest thing to do with an Independent report is to avoid secret meetings with who you tasked to make it. It's going to raise eyebrows even if it was innocent.
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Well, we have a leader of the opposition struggling with honesty too, so Labour’s ploy to stoke this up as a scandal, is a bit pathetic.
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