Coronavirus

[SnoopZ]

Originally Posted by Taf

That's all 4 of us jabbed. In-and-out in 6 minutes. Comirnaty bivalent for me.

Not heard of that one before.

[Ms NTL]

Originally Posted by SnoopZ

Not heard of that one before.

The new Pfizer one.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Ms NTL

The new Pfizer one.

Then why not just say that? One can also assume the other three got a different one.

Originally Posted by pip08456

Then why not just say that? One can also assume the other three got a different one.

Because Comirnaty is the regulated product name for the covid vaccine produced by Pfizer/BioNTech and that’s what it says on the patient information leaflet you get with your jab. Comirnaty may be more prominent on the leaflet than the manufacturer name. He’s not the first person to call it by its brand name in this thread and seeing as a good number of us have had this jab the name shouldn’t be unfamiliar.

Comirnaty Bivalent indicates that it’s the new vaccine with protection against original covid and Omicron.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Chris

Because Comirnaty is the regulated product name for the covid vaccine produced by Pfizer/BioNTech and that’s what it says on the patient information leaflet you get with your jab. Comirnaty may be more prominent on the leaflet than the manufacturer name. He’s not the first person to call it by its brand name in this thread and seeing as a good number of us have had this jab the name shouldn’t be unfamiliar.

Comirnaty Bivalent indicates that it’s the new vaccine with protection against original covid and Omicron.

Fair enough I had the other one.

[Taf]

Originally Posted by Chris

He’s not the first person to call it by its brand name in this thread.

It's what was written on the vaccination card.

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth

Think I'd rather not die a horrible death from COVID to be honest

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...2280963v1.full

Across 31 systematically identified national seroprevalence studies in the pre-vaccination era, the median infection fatality rate of COVID-19 was estimated to be 0.035% for people aged 0-59 years people and 0.095% for those aged 0-69 years.

*The median IFR was 0.0003% at 0-19 years, 0.003% at 20-29 years, 0.011% at 30-39 years, 0.035% at 40-49 years, 0.129% at 50-59 years, and 0.501% at 60-69 years.

*At a global level, pre-vaccination IFR may have been as low as 0.03% and 0.07% for 0-59 and 0-69 year old people, respectively.

*These IFR estimates in non-elderly populations are lower than previous calculations had suggested.

[Ms NTL]

Originally Posted by pip08456

Fair enough I had the other one.

Spikevax.

Moderna vaccine (Spikevax bivalent) triggers a strong immune response against both Omicron (BA.1) and the original 2020 strain. In an exploratory analysis the bivalent vaccine was also found to generate a good immune response against the Omicron sub-variants BA.4 and BA.5.

My undemanding is that Comirnaty is currently being tested for its effect on Omicron sub-variants BA.4 and BA.5.

[GrimUpNorth]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...2280963v1.full

I'm not disputing the numbers you've posted but if you could do something to reduce the chance of being one of the people to die then I think you should do it. The chances of dying my be low, but the low odds are no consolation if you're one of those people.

If you don't want to be vaccinated that's up to you but I think it's wrong to push you're agenda on other people. I do however feel people who make the choice not to be vaccinated for no reason other than they don't want to should expect to pay the cost of their care (or a good chunk of it) if they subsequently end up in hospital.

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth

If you don't want to be vaccinated that's up to you but I think it's wrong to push you're agenda on other people. I do however feel people who make the choice not to be vaccinated for no reason other than they don't want to should expect to pay the cost of their care (or a good chunk of it) if they subsequently end up in hospital.

You might call it pushing an agenda, I call it warning people. After that it's their choice.
Regarding the unvaxxed paying for their own care, fine, just give me back my tax and NI that I've payed towards the nhs.

[Hom3r]

I had Covid at the beginning of July and gave it to my dad.


That probably saved his life, as a week later he had a perforated ulcer of the bowel and the limited amount of food in his system meant the infection he had could have been a lot worse, but 3 times I slept on my sister's sofa waiting for the call to come and say goodbye, but he's pulled though and should be home soon.

[GrimUpNorth]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

You might call it pushing an agenda, I call it warning people. After that it's their choice.
Regarding the unvaxxed paying for their own care, fine, just give me back my tax and NI that I've payed towards the nhs.

I doubt the majority of the country would agree with repaying tax and NI to people who could easily be described as willing to play fast and loose with the limited resources available to the NHS.

Originally Posted by Ramrod

You might call it pushing an agenda, I call it warning people. After that it's their choice.
Regarding the unvaxxed paying for their own care, fine, just give me back my tax and NI that I've payed towards the nhs.

Well you've warned us.We however don't have to pay you any mind about it.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth

I do however feel people who make the choice not to be vaccinated for no reason other than they don't want to should expect to pay the cost of their care (or a good chunk of it) if they subsequently end up in hospital.

They've already paid for it.

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth

I doubt the majority of the country would agree with repaying tax and NI to people who could easily be described as willing to play fast and loose with the limited resources available to the NHS.

"fast and loose"?! I'll repost the link to data that shows cov to be far less deadly than originally claimed. Please read it.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...2280963v1.full

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Originally Posted by Maggy

Well you've warned us. We however don't have to pay you any mind about it.

As is your right