02-09-2021, 13:25
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Re: US President Joe Biden
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Originally Posted by peanut
I think with Trump he wasn't afraid to use force, he was unpredictable. Biden doesn't know what day it is.
I read somewhere that he Taliban agreement under Trump was follow it or we'll bomb you to hell. Biden probably said 'Oh Squirrel'....
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I'd go along with that yeah
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02-09-2021, 13:35
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Re: US President Joe Biden
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Originally Posted by Maggy
No just seeking clarification as to why some think Biden has been more disastrous than Trump.I think it's a perfectly valid question.
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That's a more nuanced and great question.
I think the answer you'll find is that there are people on this forum and elsewhere who believe that Trump was a better leader than Biden and hence would have handled it better. I've even seen one poster who believes that the Democrats always make a hash of things.
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IMHO whilst Trump instigated this shambles, Biden didn't have to stick to the roadmap. His arguments regarding maintaining forces in 'forever wars' hold no sway as there is still a US military presence in both Germany & Korea decades after their respective conflicts ended.
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And still a presence in Iraq.
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/y...ast-commander/
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02-09-2021, 13:44
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Re: US President Joe Biden
Still in the UK too . . . but not really relevant to the Biden/Afghanistan subject
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02-09-2021, 20:00
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Re: US President Joe Biden
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Originally Posted by peanut
I think with Trump he wasn't afraid to use force, he was unpredictable. Biden doesn't know what day it is.
I read somewhere that he Taliban agreement under Trump was follow it or we'll bomb you to hell. Biden probably said 'Oh Squirrel'....
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They should have done that anyway.
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03-09-2021, 01:31
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Re: US President Joe Biden
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Originally Posted by Maggy
No just seeking clarification as to why some think Biden has been more disastrous than Trump.I think it's a perfectly valid question.
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No it isn’t, not when the person asking it, you Maggy, is venomously anti-Trump.
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03-09-2021, 02:03
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Re: US President Joe Biden
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Originally Posted by peanut
I think with Trump he wasn't afraid to use force, he was unpredictable. Biden doesn't know what day it is.
I read somewhere that he Taliban agreement under Trump was follow it or we'll bomb you to hell. Biden probably said 'Oh Squirrel'....
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We'll bomb you to hell, we've been doing that for years donny and were doing it with depleted uranium ordinance at the start causing a spike in birth defects on top of everything else iirc. Bomb them to hell, they're already in it
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No it isn’t, not when the person asking it, you Maggy, is venomously anti-Trump.
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I think it is, just because you don't like someone doesn't mean you can't ask a perfectly reasonable unbiased question involving them, especially as no opinion was even proferred
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03-09-2021, 02:17
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Re: US President Joe Biden
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy
We'll bomb you to hell, we've been doing that for years donny and were doing it with depleted uranium ordinance at the start causing a spike in birth defects on top of everything else iirc. Bomb them to hell, they're already in it
I think it is, just because you don't like someone doesn't mean you can't ask a perfectly reasonable unbiased question involving them, especially as no opinion was even proferred
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Actual US combat operations ended back in 2015, under Obama. Special Forces may have had a few missions, but other than that, no direct military action took place under Trump.
Not offering an opinion is a lot better than somebody who bases "their"(ie told by somebody else) opinions on falsehoods and bias.
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03-09-2021, 02:19
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Re: US President Joe Biden
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Originally Posted by nomadking
Actual US combat operations ended back in 2015, under Obama. Special Forces may have had a few missions, but other than that, no direct military action took place under Trump.
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Never said it did but thanks for pointing it out nevertheless
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03-09-2021, 09:14
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Re: US President Joe Biden
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They should have done that anyway.
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Yes, because the past twenty odd years of the manned and unmanned air campaign have ultimately worked out so well haven’t they?
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03-09-2021, 09:37
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Re: US President Joe Biden
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Yes, because the past twenty odd years of the manned and unmanned air campaign have ultimately worked out so well haven’t they?
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Is that a really poor attempt at sarcasm?
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03-09-2021, 11:07
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Re: US President Joe Biden
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Is that a really poor attempt at sarcasm?
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Nope, it was a question to someone's comment. Do you think that the past twenty years air & ground offensive in Afghanistan has resulted in anything of note?
Apart from the Taliban gaining access to large amounts of US/NATO military hardware of course
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03-09-2021, 11:37
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Re: US President Joe Biden
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Nope, it was a question to someone's comment. Do you think that the past twenty years air & ground offensive in Afghanistan has resulted in anything of note?
Apart from the Taliban gaining access to large amounts of US/NATO military hardware of course
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Yes, we're going to gain up to 20,000 new citizens to further enrich our culture
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03-09-2021, 11:40
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Re: US President Joe Biden
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Yes, we're going to gain up to 20,000 new citizens to further enrich our culture
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Now that, is a really poor attempt at sarcasm..... either that or you've become 'woke' overnight
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03-09-2021, 11:47
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Re: US President Joe Biden
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Now that, is a really poor attempt at sarcasm..... either that or you've become 'woke' overnight
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I prefer to call it a poor attempt at wokeism.
Anyhoo i can't talk to you all day i've got statues to paint.
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03-09-2021, 12:01
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Re: US President Joe Biden
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Yes, we're going to gain up to 20,000 new citizens to further enrich our culture
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Amongst whome will be an unknown number of Islamic extreamists.
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