General : Changes to Virgin TV (2021)

Originally Posted by Media Boy

A story I posted last night has since been found out to be fake news (We use an new source).

I am really very sorry about that.

Handy hint - try to have two separate sources* before you publish.

*and that doesn’t mean one quoting another, but two separate independent sources.

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Handy hint - try to have two separate sources* before you publish.

*and that doesn’t mean one quoting another, but two separate independent sources.

Getting a single source is difficult enough, getting two sources to agree with each other is a pretty tall order.

Originally Posted by epsilon

Getting a single source is difficult enough, getting two sources to agree with each other is a pretty tall order.

Well, otherwise it's a rumour, not breaking news...

[cheekyangus]

The retirement of the V+ has been mentioned recently, but this is the first time I've heard a time. The end of this month.

https://rxtvinfo.com/2021/virgin-med...re-old-v-boxes

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by cheekyangus

The retirement of the V+ has been mentioned recently, but this is the first time I've heard a time. The end of this month.

https://rxtvinfo.com/2021/virgin-med...re-old-v-boxes

That sounds familiar

Originally Posted by Media Boy

"Andyland" is now reporting on DS Forum that the information slates are saying:

"URGENT ACTION REQUIRED" and the description reads: "This Virgin Media service will no longer be supported and will be closing on 30th November 2021."

So what is closing V Boxes or V+ Boxes.

[epsilon]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Well, otherwise it's a rumour, not breaking news...

It depends on the source and their connections to the industry. It's always best to treat "breaking news" as a rumour, however reliable, simply because plans can change at the last minute.

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Originally Posted by cheekyangus

The retirement of the V+ has been mentioned recently, but this is the first time I've heard a time. The end of this month.

https://rxtvinfo.com/2021/virgin-med...re-old-v-boxes

Rxtvinfo are a bit late with that one. Retiring old Liberate based hardware should allow Virgin to remove the obsolete infrastructure still used to support it.

[Inactive Digital]

It seems odd they are replacing obsolete boxes with V6s, which I don't think are provided for new installs any more. Maybe it's a way of reusing older V6 hardware given the chip shortages.

Originally Posted by epsilon

Rxtvinfo are a bit late with that one. Retiring old Liberate based hardware should allow Virgin to remove the obsolete infrastructure still used to support it.

I'm not sure what you mean by this. As far as I'm aware, this is actually the first public report about what the information channel has been added for.

[cheekyangus]

Originally Posted by BenMcr

That sounds familiar

Well my memory clearly ain't quite what is was for dates.

Ta BenMcr.

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by Inactive Digital

It seems odd they are replacing obsolete boxes with V6s, which I don't think are provided for new installs any more. Maybe it's a way of reusing older V6 hardware given the chip shortages.

There is an existing process to swap a V box for TiVo or V6 without disrupting the bundle or contract that's been in place since the replacement activity started.

That doesn't exist for Virgin TV 360.

[epsilon]

Originally Posted by Inactive Digital

It seems odd they are replacing obsolete boxes with V6s, which I don't think are provided for new installs any more. Maybe it's a way of reusing older V6 hardware given the chip shortages.



I'm not sure what you mean by this. As far as I'm aware, this is actually the first public report about what the information channel has been added for.

What I mean is, the end of service slates were added to the EPG of the relevant boxes on the 1st November, it has taken until the 17th for rxtvinfo to report this. I can't say I'm surprised, it's not really "big news".

[Media Boy UK]

Originally Posted by BenMcr

There is an existing process to swap a V box for TiVo or V6 without disrupting the bundle or contract that's been in place since the replacement activity started.

That doesn't exist for Virgin TV 360.

My late dad box was swap from V+ box to TiVo in April 2019. Information appeared in early March 2019 but I was banned from phoning Virgin up for two weeks to let him watch his John Wayne films. Then he forgot his PIN to order an new box so we has to wait an other week to get his PIN via Royal Mail before we try again. We has to try two times as Virgin forgot to put his PIN on the letter of the first one.

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Originally Posted by epsilon

What I mean is, the end of service slates were added to the EPG of the relevant boxes on the 1st November, it has taken until the 17th for rxtvinfo to report this. I can't say I'm surprised, it's not really "big news".

Information was added to my blog about on November 1st telling everyone about V+ box being removed from November 30th.

https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/20...t-to-move.html

[heavyside]

Both my 360 boxes have received the 4.36 software update overnight. No obvious changes that I can see but I will explore later.

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Breaking News (information received this morning): 14 new service labels have been added to the SDT, all labelled "BBC One HD" and set initially to channel 108. I've been told that, at the moment, none of these name the region in the service label and they haven't yet been added to the NIT, so it isn't possible to guess the regions at this stage. These changes are thought to be the start of preparations for the addition of the BBC One HD English regions. (SID 10178 to 10191).

[Media Boy UK]

Originally Posted by epsilon

Breaking News (information received this morning): 14 new service labels have been added to the SDT, all labelled "BBC One HD" and set initially to channel 108. I've been told that, at the moment, none of these name the region in the service label and they haven't yet been added to the NIT, so it isn't possible to guess the regions at this stage. These changes are thought to be the start of preparations for the addition of the BBC One HD English regions. (SID 10178 to 10191).

They must be testing BBC One London in one of the SID you have listing as far as I know BBC One only have 13 channels only broadcasting in SD right now.

They are:
-BBC One East [East] (East of England)
-BBC One East [West] (Cambridgeshire, Northamptonshire, Bedfordshire, Hertfordshire and parts of Buckinghamshire)
-BBC One East Mids (East Midlands of England.)
-BBC One NE & C (North East of England and Cumbria)
-BBC One North West (North West of England)
-BBC One Oxford (Oxfordshire & Parts of Wiltshire, Buckinghamshire and Northamptonshire)
-BBC One South (South of England)
-BBC One South East (Kent and East Sussex)
-BBC One South West (South West of England)
-BBC One West (West of England)
-BBC One West Mids (West Midlands of England)
-BBC One Yorks (Yorkshire and North Midlands)
-BBC One East Yorks & Lin (East Yorkshire and Lincolnshire)

Or am I missing an area?

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Originally Posted by Media Boy

They must be testing BBC One London in one of the SID you have listing as far as I know BBC One only have 13 channels only broadcasting in SD right now.

Yes, I guess so. The existing service data will be used to preserve recordings for a while, so London will need a new service-id. There is a London SD region at the moment as the HD service has no regional content. Also, at some point additional services will be needed for overlap areas.