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Originally Posted by Carth

Talking of Media, what about those French journalists, nicely positioned on the beach for the story (inc photos) of those migrants dragging a boat down to the water and then setting off for 'utopia'

I wonder if they - as a genuinely concerned person would - immediately inform the police . . . or wait until they have the story and shots they were after?

I wonder whether they ever ask the migrants why they’d rather risk drowning on the high seas than stay in France.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Carth

Talking of Media, what about those French journalists, nicely positioned on the beach for the story (inc photos) of those migrants dragging a boat down to the water and then setting off for 'utopia'

I wonder if they - as a genuinely concerned person would - immediately inform the police . . . or wait until they have the story and shots they were after?

The media has acted in the same manner for years. However, if the police were stood there watching not sure they would need informing? (if you're referring to the same incident, I'm not sure)

Originally Posted by Carth

Talking of Media, what about those French journalists, nicely positioned on the beach for the story (inc photos) of those migrants dragging a boat down to the water and then setting off for 'utopia'

I wonder if they - as a genuinely concerned person would - immediately inform the police . . . or wait until they have the story and shots they were after?

One could ask the same thing of M’sieu Farage…

https://metro.co.uk/2021/07/21/gb-ne...boat-14967594/

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Chris

I wonder whether they ever ask the migrants why they’d rather risk drowning on the high seas than stay in France.

That question has been asked & answered several times already has it not?

[Jaymoss]

Originally Posted by Hugh

No one called you a Nazi.

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks"

you know what you posted right hinge of the overton window that puts me as far right as right can be so basically saying I am capable of

"Far-right politics, also referred to as the extreme right or right-wing extremism, are politics further on the right of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political right, particularly in terms of being anti-communist, authoritarian, ultranationalist, and having nativist ideologies and tendencies."

as I said implying I am a Nazi

Don't come back with a "that is not what I meant" post cuz it was exactly what you did

I was stating, not implying, that people who use phrases like "loony left" usually quite a lot to the right of the political spectrum - if you wish to imply that that means you’re a Nazi, that’s entirely up to you.

[Jaymoss]

Originally Posted by Hugh

I was stating, not implying, that people who use phrases like "loony left" usually quite a lot to the right of the political spectrum - if you wish to imply that that means you’re a Nazi, that’s entirely up to you.

blar blar blar. I call you out a liar. You know exactly what putting me the furthest right means and no BS after changes that

[Carth]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

The media has acted in the same manner for years. However, if the police were stood there watching not sure they would need informing? (if you're referring to the same incident, I'm not sure)

I was referring to occasions when there was no police presence . . although now I've thought about it, the journo's follow plod to stories usually don't they.

hey ho, obvious lack of alcoholic beverage at my side

[jonbxx]

Originally Posted by Carth

tut tut . . facts (a silly graph/chart ) with no link again

Here you go, one link coming up - http://www.senat.fr/rap/r20-871/r20-...no.html#toc130

Happy to help

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Carth

I was referring to occasions when there was no police presence . . although now I've thought about it, the journo's follow plod to stories usually don't they.

hey ho, obvious lack of alcoholic beverage at my side

To my mind, there's a degree of similarity here

https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/vulture-little-girl/

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Jaymoss

you know what you posted right hinge of the overton window that puts me as far right as right can be so basically saying I am capable of

"Far-right politics, also referred to as the extreme right or right-wing extremism, are politics further on the right of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political right, particularly in terms of being anti-communist, authoritarian, ultranationalist, and having nativist ideologies and tendencies."

as I said implying I am a Nazi

Don't come back with a "that is not what I meant" post cuz it was exactly what you did

Much as it pains me to come to Hugh's defence, and equally so to cut across you, Hugh didn't get near implying you are a Nazi. That was an inference that you (wrongly) made. Nazi is very strong and needs to be explicit to stick.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Much as it pains me to come to Hugh's defence, and equally so to cut across you, Hugh didn't get near implying you are a Nazi. That was an inference that you (wrongly) made. Nazi is very strong and needs to be explicit to stick.

I can kiss it better for you?

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

I can kiss it better for you?

Not me Squire. Hugh was insulted by Jaymoss.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Not me Squire. Hugh was insulted by Jaymoss.

No, that it pained you to defend Hugh

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by ianch99

As the fog of Covid (temporarily) clears, we can turn our attention to the train wreck that Brexit has resulted in, Business leaders certainly have:

Apply the long term 4% drop on GBP, twice as bad as Covid will be, and you see more and more people realise they we're conned, big style.


Maybe the details of the train wreck were on the other side of the bus?

I'm shocked those figures aren't higher, really am

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Certain media publications just love to incite and stir up nationalism.

Like the Mail, got a page bookmarked somewhere where they're complaining about the "huge influx" of stateless German Jews in the 1930's and how something had to be done about "the problem", surprised it didn't call for a final solution tbh

Originally Posted by Chris

The reality is that the proportion of all migrants in Europe attempting to cross the channel is broadly the same as it has been for quite a while. There are, however, lots more of them in Europe in absolute terms, hence more of them are crossing.

I also wonder if they're coming by dingy now because coming by truck trailer is harder now

Originally Posted by Chris

I wonder whether they ever ask the migrants why they’d rather risk drowning on the high seas than stay in France.

A question that really needs asking at a much higher level, why do they come here, is it because of common language or family here or is it because they think we're a soft touch with benefits and it's easier to get work? There's nothing we can do about the former but plenty we can do about the latter, personally I think it's because they've already lost everything and risked so much to get that far all those reasons are valid so in much the same way France does nothing to stop them leaving we need to do more to discourage them, as previously stated the benefits are higher in France so maybe we need to be a bit more draconian with the punishments for people who employ or house them, the word will soon filter back, how'd you think word got to them to come here in the first place