Climate Change

[Itshim]

On another point in the last week have seen one and heard about another ( on news report) + the Venice bus of ev catching fire when in a crash , perhaps they are not such a great idea. Having second thoughts about the one I have ordered. Time to go and eat . Cheers

Originally Posted by Itshim

On another point in the last week have seen one and heard about another ( on news report) + the Venice bus of ev catching fire when in a crash , perhaps they are not such a great idea. Having second thoughts about the one I have ordered. Time to go and eat . Cheers

Crashing through the guardrail and the 15 metre fall onto electricity lines were probably contributing factors as well…

Originally Posted by Itshim

On another point in the last week have seen one and heard about another ( on news report) + the Venice bus of ev catching fire when in a crash

I'm pretty sure petrol/diesel vehicles can catch fire in a crash as well.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Paul

All the sea defences Ive seen on the east coast are more than 35 cm high.

Still, I'm sure its not that hard to build an 18 inch wall (10cm to spare).

The problem with sea/flood defences is that water has a habit of going round the sides, its sneaky like that. Plus there's the little problem of tides, waves, and the increasing regularity of storms. An 18 inch wall even if it could cover the 11,073 miles of UK coastline, might not be much help.

Originally Posted by Mr K

The problem with sea/flood defences is that water has a habit of going round the sides, its sneaky like that. Plus there's the little problem of tides, waves, and the increasing regularity of storms. An 18 inch wall even if it could cover the 11,073 miles of UK coastline, might not be much help.

You know they only build sea defences on the bits that are low lying or susceptible to storm surges, right?

There’s not much of a call for a sea wall (of any height) around Dover.

Originally Posted by Mr K

The problem with sea/flood defences is that water has a habit of going round the sides, its sneaky like that.

Gosh, I bet no one thought of that, esp the designers and builders of them.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Don’t Look Up!

No! Very disappointing.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Paul

Why would anyone not consider their own demise ?

The UK accounts for less than 1% of global greenhouse emissions, so we should absolutely consider if its really worth all the pain and cost for something that will have very little effect overall.

Probably well over 100 countries account for less than 1%, if they all cut together we'd be half way there, what's wrong with us leading the way again, I'm sick of us following rather than leading as a force for good and for what it's worth I think that's a really good way of looking at it, this is about the demise of our children and grandchildren and as ever it'll be the poor who suffer first but money won't insulate even the richest amongst us forever

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Probably well over 100 countries account for less than 1%, if they all cut together we'd be half way there, what's wrong with us leading the way again, I'm sick of us following rather than leading as a force for good and for what it's worth I think that's a really good way of looking at it, this is about the demise of our children and grandchildren and as ever it'll be the poor who suffer first but money won't insulate even the richest amongst us forever

What’s wrong with taking the lead?

I’ll tell you what’s wrong and if you can’t see that, you and others like you, are fools.

For our 1% we’ll be truly beggared and China will be laughing all the way down to the coal mines. Simples.

This stupid talk about sigma 1% and we’re hlfway there - there’s no such thing. Output is as a result of economic activity. You might cobble together just a few one percenters of comparable emissions.

What makes you come out with this nonsense?

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Hugh

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Point of order its a Marathon, not Snickers.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

What’s wrong with taking the lead?

Because we're a fantastic world leading country. Where we go, others follow. Remember ? Or is it Little decaying England after all.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

What’s wrong with taking the lead?

I’ll tell you what’s wrong and if you can’t see that, you and others like you, are fools.

For our 1% we’ll be truly beggared and China will be laughing all the way down to the coal mines. Simples.

This stupid talk about sigma 1% and we’re hlfway there - there’s no such thing. Output is as a result of economic activity. You might cobble together just a few one percenters of comparable emissions.

What makes you come out with this nonsense?

We don't have to ruin the economy bellend, we could just stick to what we said we'd do and not sell permits for new oil fields in the north sea and you know what you're right, in terms of pollution per capita we are not 1% probably significantly higher

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Originally Posted by Mr K

Point of order its a Marathon, not Snickers.

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Because we're a fantastic world leading country. Where we go, others follow. Remember ? Or is it Little decaying England after all.

Not sure why he's doing down the country

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Because we're a fantastic world leading country. Where we go, others follow. Remember ? Or is it Little decaying England after all.

Shrodinger's England.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

We don't have to ruin the economy bellend, we could just stick to what we said we'd do and not sell permits for new oil fields in the north sea and you know what you're right, in terms of pollution per capita we are not 1% probably significantly higher

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If you're going to call me that, make sure you're right.

The per capita emission means nothing. It's lower in China because tens of millions of Chinese are not major emitters. What's China's population? c. 20x ours?

The oil & gas permits, if the stuff comes to us, saves us from importing the stuff which will save people money because they can continue using their assets.

I'm not the "bellend" here.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

If you're going to call me that, make sure you're right.

The per capita emission means nothing. It's lower in China because tens of millions of Chinese are not major emitters. What's China's population? c. 20x ours?

The oil & gas permits, if the stuff comes to us, saves us from importing the stuff which will save people money because they can continue using their assets.

I'm not the "bellend" here.

That IF is doing a lot of heavy lifting as iirc Equinor the Norwegian state oil company said 90% of Rosebanks oil reserves will be sold on the open market with the most likely destination being continental Europe, other than that though you are absolutely right

Per capita means nothing? It means everything, it means as individuals we are responsible for more, thought you as a libertarian would be in favour of individual responsibility, obviously not