Charlie Farley

Originally Posted by Hugh

One of the guests on GBNews just had to come out and play the race card. What an absolute git.

https://twitter.com/saulstaniforth/s...Fx9lsEXWlOa1jg

Re the Prime Minister reading from the Epistle to the Colossians* during the service.



*not a Gospel reading

Any Christian should be delighted at a Hindu reading the Gospel, or indeed a passage from Colossians that asserts Jesus is “the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: for by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: and he is before all things, and by him all things consist”.

But it’s not really about defending the Gospel from heathens is it, it’s about preserving “British Culture” …

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Pierre

God save the King.

Nobody does it like we do. Only the most dull, dour, joyless, boring (insert similar epithet) person could think our country would be better without that pomp.

Indeed it was a magnificent bit of pomp and pageantry.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Hugh

One of the guests on GBNews just had to come out and play the race card. What an absolute git.

https://twitter.com/saulstaniforth/s...Fx9lsEXWlOa1jg

Re the Prime Minister reading from the Epistle to the Colossians* during the service.



*not a Gospel reading

One of the guests on the BBC just had to come out and play the race card. What an absolute git.

Re the Royal Balcony being “White”

https://youtu.be/S_JsNndjECM

Originally Posted by Pierre

One of the guests on the BBC just had to come out and play the race card. What an absolute git.

Re the Royal Balcony being “White”

https://youtu.be/S_JsNndjECM

And her comment is as stupid as Calvin’s…

[Sephiroth]

The idiot that called Sunak a heathen should take a look at the definition. But I wouldn’t have called him racist.

I actually felt for Sunak because he couldn’t have believed in what he was told to say.



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Another thought. If king trumps queen now but Elizabeth’s consort was a prince, why isn’t Camilla a princess? Sort of thing -

[Jaymoss]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

The idiot that called Sunak a heathen should take a look at the definition. But I wouldn’t have called him racist.

I actually felt for Sunak because he couldn’t have believed in what he was told to say.



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Another thought. If king trumps queen now but Elizabeth’s consort was a prince, why isn’t Camilla a princess? Sort of thing -

She should never be the Queen without consort on the end. This is a change they made for her and I think it is 100% wrong. I dunno if it is true but it is said Anne is not happy about it either

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Jaymoss

She should never be the Queen without consort on the end. This is a change they made for her and I think it is 100% wrong. I dunno if it is true but it is said Anne is not happy about it either

And you are 100% right.

Also, Harry's not happy about it. Nor am I.

Originally Posted by Jaymoss

She should never be the Queen without consort on the end. This is a change they made for her and I think it is 100% wrong. I dunno if it is true but it is said Anne is not happy about it either

She is indeed ‘Queen Consort’ because this distinguishes her from ‘Queen Regnant’ which is what her mother in law was. Constitutionally she is still Queen Consort and will always be so. It’s just an accurate description of her position.

However, by convention the wife of the King has always been styled ‘Queen’. Before George VI died and she became Queen Mother, Elizabeth (Bowes Lyon) was simply known as Queen Elizabeth or ‘the Queen’. It was the express wish of the late Queen Elizabeth that Camilla should be styled Queen Consort in order to maintain a subtle distinction, by way of continuing to acknowledge that she was a divorcee, a mistress, a second wife, and not the mother of the future king. Basically a way of placating those who always said ‘Camilla will never be Queen’. Styling her Queen Consort would simply have been an accurate description of her constitutional role, but spelling it out was meant to give the illusion of difference even where there was none.

They kept the pretence up for as long as they thought decent after Elizabeth II died, but they have now gone against her express wishes by declaring Camilla should be styled simply ‘Queen’. Note they have gone against Liz 2’s wishes, but we don’t live in ancient Persia and the decrees of one monarch aren’t binding on their successors, so Charlie Farley can do as he chooses.

Constitutionally, Camilla is Queen Consort. Her style, as decreed by Charles, will simply be ‘Queen’, as has been the case for Kings’ wives since forever, AFAIK.

[Jaymoss]

Originally Posted by Chris

She is indeed ‘Queen Consort’ because this distinguishes her from ‘Queen Regnant’ which is what her mother in law was. Constitutionally she is still Queen Consort and will always be so. It’s just an accurate description of her position.

However, by convention the wife of the King has always been styled ‘Queen’. Before George VI died and she became Queen Mother, Elizabeth (Bowes Lyon) was simply known as Queen Elizabeth or ‘the Queen’. It was the express wish of the late Queen Elizabeth that Camilla should be styled Queen Consort in order to maintain a subtle distinction, by way of continuing to acknowledge that she was a divorcee, a mistress, a second wife, and not the mother of the future king. Basically a way of placating those who always said ‘Camilla will never be Queen’. Styling her Queen Consort would simply have been an accurate description of her constitutional role, but spelling it out was meant to give the illusion of difference even where there was none.

They kept the pretence up for as long as they thought decent after Elizabeth II died, but they have now gone against her express wishes by declaring Camilla should be styled simply ‘Queen’. Note they have gone against Liz 2’s wishes, but we don’t live in ancient Persia and the decrees of one monarch aren’t binding on their successors, so Charlie Farley can do as he chooses.

Constitutionally, Camilla is Queen Consort. Her style, as decreed by Charles, will simply be ‘Queen’, as has been the case for Kings’ wives since forever, AFAIK.

Another reason not to respect him and denounce him as not my King then

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

The idiot that called Sunak a heathen should take a look at the definition. But I wouldn’t have called him racist.

I actually felt for Sunak because he couldn’t have believed in what he was told to say.



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Another thought. If king trumps queen now but Elizabeth’s consort was a prince, why isn’t Camilla a princess? Sort of thing -

Originally Posted by Jaymoss

Another reason not to respect him and denounce him as not my King then

Unfortunately, Charley Farlie is my king.

Originally Posted by Jaymoss

Another reason not to respect him and denounce him as not my King then

That’s like saying the current (or any of the previous) Prime Minister(s) is/are not your PM - they are whether one likes or not…

It’s not a personal choice (much as we’d like it to be), just a matter of fact.

[Jaymoss]

Originally Posted by Hugh

That’s like saying the current (or any of the previous) Prime Minister(s) is/are not your PM - they are whether one likes or not…

It’s not a personal choice (much as we’d like it to be), just a matter of fact.

I pay my dues to Caesar but my King is Jesus and above him only God. I would stand by Jesus and Jehovah's laws rules and principles even if I lose my liberty for doing so. Charles III is not my King

[pip08456]

AFAIK all regaila bestowed on Camilla was Queens Consort. However I agree with those that as Phil the Greek was feferred to as Prince then Camilla should also be referred to as Princess.

Charles may be my King (which I agree with) but Camilla will never be my Queen. King's Consort IMHO fits better than Queen Consort.

I'm a member of the RAOB GLE Ltd. and stated my commitment to the Crown and constitution of this Country.

If its been decreed she will be Queen, so be it.
It wont make any difference to my life, so I dont really care.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Paul

If its been decreed she will be Queen, so be it.
It wont make any difference to my life, so I dont really care.

Legally she will never be Queen. If/when Charles dies the Monarchy will be passed on to William. She won't even be referred to as Kings Mother.