10-08-2022, 19:20
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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You're joking, we haven't gone through all this to just simply reintroduce stuff we voted to leave behind
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We went through this to give BoJo a spin nehind tbe wheel!
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10-08-2022, 19:23
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Re: Britain outside the EU
We went through Brexit to regain our sovereignty.
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10-08-2022, 19:53
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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We went through Brexit to regain our sovereignty.
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No we never, there was a myriad of reasons people voted to leave and you only speak for yourself, fact is we left and in doing so left the single market that maggie dreamt up including it's free movement of services, goods, capital and people, we haven't gone through all this crap to glibly say oh we'll reintroduce one of them, there would be uproar and rightly so imo
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10-08-2022, 20:16
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy
No we never, there was a myriad of reasons people voted to leave and you only speak for yourself, fact is we left and in doing so left the single market that maggie dreamt up including it's free movement of services, goods, capital and people, we haven't gone through all this crap to glibly say oh we'll reintroduce one of them, there would be uproar and rightly so imo
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I rhink Truss may introduce one way FOM for farm and hospitality work.
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10-08-2022, 23:48
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy
No we never, there was a myriad of reasons people voted to leave and you only speak for yourself, fact is we left and in doing so left the single market that maggie dreamt up including it's free movement of services, goods, capital and people, we haven't gone through all this crap to glibly say oh we'll reintroduce one of them, there would be uproar and rightly so imo
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Maggie didn't "dream up" the single market at all, that was the EEC at the time and it certainly didn't include free movement of people. It was merely a trading block.
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11-08-2022, 01:07
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Maggie didn't "dream up" the single market at all, that was the EEC at the time and it certainly didn't include free movement of people. It was merely a trading block.
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Hmm. She had a lot to do with making it happen and freedom of movement was always intended to be one of its four pillars.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/o...ld-432900.html
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11-08-2022, 01:12
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Maggie didn't "dream up" the single market at all, that was the EEC at the time and it certainly didn't include free movement of people. It was merely a trading block.
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Who said this then
and to move towards free enterprise in a single market. She stated that "of course, we want to make it easier for goods to pass through frontiers. Of course, we must make it easier for people to travel throughout the Community
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11-08-2022, 01:35
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Though her government backed the creation of the single European market, which removed all barriers to trade, in the mid-1980s, Thatcher became increasingly hostile to further integration between the European countries.
The appointment of French socialist Jacques Delors to head the executive European Commission in 1985 arguably provided the euroskeptics their first real European bogeyman. Thatcher was aghast at Delors’ ambition for the creation of a single currency and a European central bank. The EEC, to her, was venturing into areas that would significantly dilute the sovereignty of individual nation states to set economic policy.
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https://apnews.com/article/brexit-bu...b5132bdfb22ea6
Easier for people to travel does not automatically mean free movement.
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11-08-2022, 03:34
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Great, a quote that bares no relevance to the point you're trying to prove, like it or not she was the political driving force behind the unified single market for goods, services, labour and capital, the fact she didn't like the euro or Central Bank doesn't change that
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11-08-2022, 14:58
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Re: Britain outside the EU
Got my new driving license photo card in the post today after changing address. No more euro-flag in my wallet. A small thing, I know, but it made me smile. I can’t wait for those disingenuous “structural fund” signs to start vanishing from our regional infrastructure projects as well, all decorated with the EU flag as if it wasn’t our own money they were sending back to us (after necessary deductions for their commissioners’ private jets, naturally).
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11-08-2022, 15:02
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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I can’t wait for those disingenuous “structural fund” signs to start vanishing from our regional infrastructure projects as well, all decorated with the EU flag as if it wasn’t our own money they were sending back to us (after necessary deductions for their commissioners’ private jets, naturally).
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I doubt you'll be seeing any replacement Union Flag signs unless your MP is Conservative.
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11-08-2022, 15:03
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Originally Posted by Chris
Got my new driving license photo card in the post today after changing address. No more euro-flag in my wallet. A small thing, I know, but it made me smile. I can’t wait for those disingenuous “structural fund” signs to start vanishing from our regional infrastructure projects as well, all decorated with the EU flag as if it wasn’t our own money they were sending back to us (after necessary deductions for their commissioners’ private jets, naturally).
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Wonder if any of the regional infrastructure projects will vanish as well, after rishi's boasting about taking money of poor regions it wouldn't surprise me
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11-08-2022, 18:45
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Re: Britain outside the EU
If they do, then political accountability for it will rest at Westminster and nowhere else, and it can become a directly relevant issue at the next election - which is part of the point of Brexit.
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11-08-2022, 19:08
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Wonder if any of the regional infrastructure projects will vanish as well, after rishi's boasting about taking money of poor regions it wouldn't surprise me
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It was returning money to the regions Labour had stolen it from. There are a set of formulae that are used to allocate money to regions. Labour altered them to take money away from non-Labour areas.
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11-08-2022, 19:23
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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I doubt you'll be seeing any replacement Union Flag signs unless your MP is Conservative.
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Not really bothered about that to be honest - we’re not really a big flag-waving nation. It’s more the symbolism of the disengagement from EU institutions and structures I was pointing out. The main advantage is that signage no longer implies we should be grateful for largesse paid for with our own money.
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