30-01-2022, 21:08
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Re: Coronavirus
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My triple vaccinated sister had it last week ,she said she felt really bad the symptoms were awful.
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30-01-2022, 21:23
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
My triple vaccinated sister had it last week ,she said she felt really bad the symptoms were awful.
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Just as well she’s had all 3 then - if she’s still that susceptible after two vaccines plus the booster, then without them she might well have ended up in hospital.
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30-01-2022, 21:27
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Re: Coronavirus
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No vaccine needed. I have an immune system
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Pretty much all of us have one of those, it doesnt mean it always copes well with everything (and everyone is different).
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30-01-2022, 21:44
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Re: Coronavirus
One of the more annoying things about COVID is how some aspects of it have just become part of the culture war. So people don't take the vaccine or wear a mask purely to make a statement, or people make a show about how concerned they are and insist they will wear an N95 mask everywhere and stay indoors because 'it's not over yet'. Everyone suddenly taking Ivermectin just because it's become this rallying point for American culture warriors is another example.
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30-01-2022, 22:05
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Mr K
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Well it shows the bad decisions made by the gov, and all bull sheet spouted by the rent-a-gob scientists and doctors.
The vaccine(s) are great at preventing you, personally, from getting really Ill………..and that is about it.
By taking the vaccine you are not saving granny, Helping anyone ( other than yourself) or doing diddlysquat.
The vaccines are for personal protection. This is were the narrative had to change and most of the population said screw it.
Thankfully it’s over now. Wear a mask if you need to but we’re all past that now.
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30-01-2022, 22:12
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Damien
One of the more annoying things about COVID is how some aspects of it have just become part of the culture war. So people don't take the vaccine or wear a mask purely to make a statement, or people make a show about how concerned they are and insist they will wear an N95 mask everywhere and stay indoors because 'it's not over yet'. Everyone suddenly taking Ivermectin just because it's become this rallying point for American culture warriors is another example.
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Quite a lot is virtue signalling these days to be honest...
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30-01-2022, 22:25
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by nffc
Quite a lot is virtue signalling these days to be honest...
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I think that choice of terminology underlines Damien's point.
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30-01-2022, 22:37
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Pierre
Well it shows the bad decisions made by the gov, and all bull sheet spouted by the rent-a-gob scientists and doctors.
The vaccine(s) are great at preventing you, personally, from getting really Ill………..and that is about it.
By taking the vaccine you are not saving granny, Helping anyone ( other than yourself) or doing diddlysquat.
The vaccines are for personal protection. This is were the narrative had to change and most of the population said screw it.
Thankfully it’s over now. Wear a mask if you need to but we’re all past that now.
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https://www.newscientist.com/article...re-vaccinated/
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People who are fully vaccinated against covid-19 are far less likely to infect others, despite the arrival of the delta variant, several studies show. The findings refute the idea, which has become common in some circles, that vaccines no longer do much to prevent the spread of the coronavirus.
“They absolutely do reduce transmission,” says Christopher Byron Brooke at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. “Vaccinated people do transmit the virus in some cases, but the data are super crystal-clear that the risk of transmission for a vaccinated individual is much, much lower than for an unvaccinated individual.”
A recent study found that vaccinated people infected with the delta variant are 63 per cent less likely to infect people who are unvaccinated.
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https://www.news-medical.net/news/20...ssibility.aspx
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The study findings show that vaccination reduces SARS-CoV-2 transmission and should therefore be employed to reduce the risk of infection among susceptible populations who are in contact with infected individuals.
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https://www.osfhealthcare.org/blog/f...-19-to-others/
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"We do not have conclusive proof. But more and more studies and real-world evidence points to fully vaccinated people, who are not immunocompromised, are less likely to transmit the virus if they become infected,” said Brian Laird, PharmD, a manager in Pharmacy Operations at OSF HealthCare.
“The reason why is that vaccinated people have a lower viral load if they get infected,” Brian said.
Viral load means the amount of virus an infected person produces. If the viral load is significantly smaller because someone is vaccinated, that lessens the risk of transmitting the virus to others through the transmission of respiratory droplets.
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30-01-2022, 22:39
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Remoaner
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
I think that choice of terminology underlines Damien's point.
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Nah I think he's got it.
My point is there is a lot of performance to it now. This guy wears a t-shirt proclaiming he won't get the vaccine and he is taking treatments with little medical backing because it's become a thing over in America. People who won't respect a shop's request to wear a mask as a point of principle.
But there is some the other way too where people announce to the world that the pandemic isn't over and they, being the good citizens they are, have decided they're going to stay in lockdown or whatever.
People just need to chill out a bit. Not everything has to be a fight.
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30-01-2022, 22:41
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Damien
One of the more annoying things about COVID is how some aspects of it have just become part of the culture war. So people don't take the vaccine or wear a mask purely to make a statement, or people make a show about how concerned they are and insist they will wear an N95 mask everywhere and stay indoors because 'it's not over yet'. Everyone suddenly taking Ivermectin just because it's become this rallying point for American culture warriors is another example.
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Just goes to show how successful the fear mongering by Govenment and MSM has been.
Those who (rightly IMHO) didn't believe it naturally rebel.
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30-01-2022, 23:47
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by pip08456
Just goes to show how successful the fear mongering by Govenment and MSM has been.
Those who (rightly IMHO) didn't believe it naturally rebel.
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Yes, guess the 156,000 UK deaths are just down to fear mongering...
Anyway, let's hope lovely Lawrence Fox is OK and doesn't develop any complications from being a rebel without a cause...
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31-01-2022, 02:39
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Re: Coronavirus
Had a feeling this would never happen.
"U-turn on mandatory Covid vaccinations for NHS and social care workers"
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Mandatory Covid jabs for NHS and social care workers are set to be scrapped, The Telegraph can reveal, after warnings of crippling staff shortages if the plan went ahead.
Sajid Javid, the Health Secretary, will on Monday meet fellow ministers on the Covid-Operations Cabinet committee to rubber stamp the decision on the about-turn.
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31-01-2022, 02:50
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Re: Coronavirus
About time.
It made no sense at all, and given that Wales, Scotland and [likely] Northan Ireland had no plans to do the same, just made them look like nanny state fools.
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31-01-2022, 07:34
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
I think that choice of terminology underlines Damien's point.
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I don't.
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31-01-2022, 09:00
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Jimmy-J
Had a feeling this would never happen.
"U-turn on mandatory Covid vaccinations for NHS and social care workers"
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How many virtue signalling gob shytes will refuse treatment by the unclean
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