Coronavirus

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Chris

It gets more farcical by the minute.

The EU has now resurrected its claim that AstraZeneca must supply vaccines to the EU from its British factory, despite the fact that the court ruling does not specify this, and also that AstraZeneca’s European operation is already producing much more vaccine than will be required to meet the court’s requirement of 50 million doses by the end of September.

For the avoidance of doubt, the EU asked the court to force AZ to deliver 120 million doses by the end of June. The court has in fact ruled that AZ must deliver 20 million; AZ says it will in fact have delivered substantially more than 80 million doses by that date.

Ursula Von Der Lying has inexplicably claimed that all of this somehow amounts to an endorsement of the EU’s argument. In fact, all the court has really done is to quantify what “best effort” should look like - and as AZ has already exceeded this, if the court has endorsed anything, it is AZ’s position.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-57531064

Have you ever had an argument with a woman

Originally Posted by Chris

It gets more farcical by the minute.

The EU has now resurrected its claim that AstraZeneca must supply vaccines to the EU from its British factory,

What a bunch of simpleton pricks. (No, I am not talking about the vaccines).

Did the corrupted EU just forget there, that we are no longer in their grasps and do not have to do a damn thing they say anymore?

My wife just had a notification from her iPhone COVID-19 app - she had been in close contact with someone who tested positive on Thursday.

So, she will be self-isolating until one minute to midnight Sunday 27th June, and we are off to get a PCR test at 2pm today (both of us, even though I haven't been contacted).

Luckily (unless the PCR test comes back positive), I don't have to self-isolate, so the dog will still get walked - no trip to my daughter's tomorrow for Fathers Day, though, as I won't leave my wife on her own while I get treated to lunch.

[papa smurf]

COVID-19: Ministers consider dropping self-isolation rules for those with two jabs


https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...gests-12336298

[Pierre]

Indeed

[1andrew1]

Covid in Scotland: Nicola Sturgeon defends Manchester travel ban

Scotland's first minister has defended the ban on non-essential travel with Manchester and Salford after an angry reaction from the area's mayor.

Greater Manchester mayor Andy Burnham accused the Scottish government of "hypocrisy" over the move.

But Nicola Sturgeon said the decision was a public health measure, based on Covid levels in the area.

Opposition politicians in Scotland said there had been a lack of consistency and a lack of consultation.

However, Ms Sturgeon - who received her second vaccination in Glasgow on Monday - said she had a "duty" to keep Scotland as safe as possible.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-57551236

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

COVID-19: Ministers consider dropping self-isolation rules for those with two jabs


https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...gests-12336298

I'm a little perplexed by this, whilst the vaccines offer better than imagined results against hospitalization, severe illness and deaths. The figures for reduction in transmission i believe are (for example Astrazeneca) somewhere between a forty and sixty percent reduction.

Now, up against the old 'kent' variant w is one thing, but compared to the delta/indian variant with it's significantly increased transmission capabilities makes me wonder if this really is a good idea.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

I'm a little perplexed by this, whilst the vaccines offer better than imagined results against hospitalization, severe illness and deaths. The figures for reduction in transmission i believe are (for example Astrazeneca) somewhere between a forty and sixty percent reduction.

Now, up against the old 'kent' variant w is one thing, but compared to the delta/indian variant with it's significantly increased transmission capabilities makes me wonder if this really is a good idea.

This is "living with the virus" in action. The fact that some will contract the virus and go on to infect others isn't deemed to be relevant as long as it's not too many people at once.

Originally Posted by jfman

This is "living with the virus" in action. The fact that some will contract the virus and go on to infect others isn't deemed to be relevant as long as it's not too many people at once.

You mean like we have doing for the last 20,000+ years.

[spiderplant]

I guess the daily tests will identify most infected people before they start retransmitting it.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Paul

You mean like we have doing for the last 20,000+ years.

Well, yes. And a lot of dying of viruses too over those same 20,000 years.

A hugely successful vaccination programme - like that in Israel - could see the numbers having to isolate be tiny, giving testing, tracing and isolation an excellent chance at keeping numbers low.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Paul

You mean like we have doing for the last 20,000+ years.

I've not had a cold for over a year, a first. There's a lot to be said for social distancing. People are either smelly or noisy or infectious or boring, best to steer clear anyway

[Pierre]

After stating in April that this current lockdown will be the last..........oh look.

http://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-b...inter-12337719

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Mr K

I've not had a cold for over a year, a first. There's a lot to be said for social distancing. People are either smelly or noisy or infectious or boring, best to steer clear anyway

Probably best to stay on the allotment with the other vegetables

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Pierre

After stating in April that this current lockdown will be the last..........oh look.

http://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-b...inter-12337719

Never trust politicians selling comfortable lies the month before an election.