05-11-2020, 17:36
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
Might it not be that the men go out to work, etc to a much greater extent than women, particularly in some ethnic groups.
Unlike your second and third paragraphs, I have at least provided sources for my suggestions.
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I wouldn't fancy womens chances loitering around the schoolyard gates.
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05-11-2020, 18:22
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#782
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
Might it not be that the men go out to work, etc to a much greater extent than women, particularly in some ethnic groups.
Unlike your second and third paragraphs, I have at least provided sources for my suggestions.
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So there hasn't been any large weddings parties, funerals, shisha "clubs", etc caught out? How many haven't been caught out and made the news?
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A Lancashire mosque where more than 250 mourners attended a funeral last week despite coronavirus restrictions has been forced to close.
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An activity that involves sharing saliva isn't a great idea.
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Police have closed a shisha cafe after finding about 150 people inside, days after the venue was hit with a £10,000 fine for Covid-19 breaches.
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The venue had broken restrictions earlier this month, police said.
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Certainly at least one hospital(out of how many that have been examined recently? and that I know of) has been criticised for lack of enhanced hygiene behaviour. One of the factors has been blamed on BAME being in the NHS. It was a question, rather than a statement.
At least I have more of a basis than the usual screaming of unsubstantiated claims of "institutionalised racism".
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Covid-19 has "thrived" among black, Asian and ethnic minority (BAME) communities because of structural race discrimination, a Labour report says.
Its author, Baroness Lawrence, said these groups were "over-exposed" and faced "barriers" to healthcare.
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Iran has been badly affected, so how does that fit in?
Senior BAME NHS staff have been affected, so again how does that fit in?
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05-11-2020, 18:36
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Re: Coronavirus
Fits in perfectly with what I'm saying. Some ethnic groups' behaviours invite infection.
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05-11-2020, 20:00
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by jfman
I wouldn't fancy womens chances loitering around the schoolyard gates.
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Ohh don’t be so sweeping with your generalisations, I do all the school runs as do many other blokes, granted I reckon a 70/30 split.
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05-11-2020, 20:09
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Pierre
Ohh don’t be so sweeping with your generalisations, I do all the school runs as do many other blokes, granted I reckon a 70/30 split.
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I know.
I was only following up on Seph's generalisation in the post above mine about men going out to work.
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05-11-2020, 20:20
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Re: Coronavirus
The ONS conclusion on ethnicity and Covid deaths.
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Our statistical modelling shows that a large proportion of the difference in the risk of COVID-19 mortality between ethnic groups can be explained by demographic, geographical and socioeconomic factors, such as where you live or the occupation you’re in. It also found that although specific pre-existing conditions place people at greater risk of COVID-19 mortality generally, it does not explain the remaining ethnic background differences in mortality.”
Ben Humberstone, Deputy Director, Health and Life Events Division, Office for National Statistics.
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https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...20#main-points
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05-11-2020, 20:31
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
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The only way to be able to include those factors was if there were large BAME populations where those factors weren't there. Is that the case? I very much doubt it. You can't include factor X for group Y, unless there is a group Y where factor X doesn't apply to compare it against.
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06-11-2020, 10:11
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Re: Coronavirus
So still 6,000 hospital admissions each DAY. with 1,000 deaths each DAY, matching the previous peak.
Nothing to worry about then.
The lower range of the predictions haven't changed.
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06-11-2020, 10:14
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by nomadking
So still 6,000 hospital admissions each DAY. with 1,000 deaths each DAY, matching the previous peak.
Nothing to worry about then.
The lower range of the predictions haven't changed.
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you seem to b e using that emoji:roll eyes:quite alot these days.
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06-11-2020, 10:25
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
you seem to b e using that emoji:roll eyes:quite alot these days.
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Well if people will keep talking a load of nonsense these days.
Even the adjusted graph shows reaching the previous peak level by next month, and if nothing was done then that would increase yet further.
Part of the reason for the timing of this lockdown, is to hopefully not need it over Christmas time, which people were whinging about.
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06-11-2020, 10:48
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
Exactly. How would they know?
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Trouble is, this human ingenuity to avoid rules encourages heavier lockdowns.
In Sweden, they suggest good practice to limit the spread and everyone does it for the good of society. In the UK, we find clever ways of breaking good practice and the government imposes lockdowns.
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06-11-2020, 13:23
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Re: Coronavirus
More reasons why uncontrolled spread of a virus is a bad idea. Billions of mutation opportunities compromising immunity.
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/20...mpression=true
20 deaths in Sweden too.
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06-11-2020, 14:03
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Re: Coronavirus
Apparently this spoof graph is circulating amongst Tory MPs:
rebel_graph.jpg
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06-11-2020, 17:42
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy
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They're all spoof graphs these days.
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