Police to get tough on internet trolls. - Page 68

Mythica · 15-12-2021, 20:40

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

I did read it to the best of my ability.

A person's limitations due to disability should always be taken into account.

Or, you didn't read it correctly in haste to post on here something which you thought furthered your argument.

Pierre · 15-12-2021, 20:44

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

The answer to offensive/discriminatory behaviour is for said behaviour to be appropriately dealt with.

If a wheelchair user went to a bar and was subject to abuse and offensive behaviour, the answer isn't to tell them not to go to that particular bar.

Well ….it sort of is. Not excusing the behaviour but if I had a bad experience somewhere I am unlikely to go there again.

If they received abuse specifically because of their disability by the management of that establishment that’s different. If they received abuse by patrons that wasn’t dealt with they may also have a point, but either way, would you go back?

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If the abuse was from a house on the street, the answer isn't for the disabled man to be expected to use another route or put in ear plugs.

Well “on the street” is an issue and it also depends on the definition of “abuse”

Being “exposed” to something and something being “targeted” at you are two different things.

**Paul** · 15-12-2021, 22:51

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

A person's limitations due to disability should always be taken into account.

Or they could read it several times to make sure they actually understood it, instead of making rash statements based on incorrect comprehension.

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

If a wheelchair user went to a bar and was subject to abuse and offensive behaviour, the answer isn't to tell them not to go to that particular bar.

Its a perfectly valid answer, just one you dont want to hear.

RichardCoulter · 15-12-2021, 23:03

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Originally Posted by Paul

Or they could read it several times to make sure they actually understood it, instead of making rash statements based on incorrect comprehension.

Its a perfectly valid answer, just one you dont want to hear.

You clearly haven't got a clue what it's like to have a brain injury, even worse you don't even seem willing to try and understand. Let's hope you never have to find out the hard way.

If a member of a protected group is being unlawfully discriminated against, this behaviour must be stopped.

Anyone in business who displayed such a view is likely to face legal action or a visit from the police.

**Paul** · 15-12-2021, 23:09

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

You clearly haven't got a clue what it's like to have a brain injury, even worse you don't even seem willing to try and understand. Let's hope you never have to find out the hard way.

You "haven't got a clue" about me, or my family, so yet another rash statement.

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If a member of a protected group is being unlawfully discriminated against, this behaviour must be stopped.

So now you're confusing "abuse and offensive behaviour" (which is subjective btw) with "unlawfully discriminated", two completely different things.

Jaymoss · 15-12-2021, 23:23

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Originally Posted by Paul

You "haven't got a clue" about me, or my family, so yet another rash statement.

So now you're confusing "abuse and offensive behaviour" (which is subjective btw) with "unlawfully discriminated", two completely different things.

Do you know what it is like to have a brain injury?

jfman · 15-12-2021, 23:30

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

The answer to offensive/discriminatory behaviour is for said behaviour to be appropriately dealt with.

If a wheelchair user went to a bar and was subject to abuse and offensive behaviour, the answer isn't to tell them not to go to that particular bar.

If the abuse was from a house on the street, the answer isn't for the disabled man to be expected to use another route or put in ear plugs.

This new legislation aims to set out the rules that we must all abide by, or face the consequences. By far, the vast majority of people won't need to make any changes as they already behave properly on the internet.

Well no, but the street is public land.

People should vote with their wallets. Not specific to disabilities, but #metoo led to a number of venues essentially outed as routinely tolerating harassment/spiking drinks/etc. Yet many of the people making the claim were regular in attendance.

Utterly bizarre. Don't fund someone who isn't looking after you.

Mythica · 15-12-2021, 23:30

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

You clearly haven't got a clue what it's like to have a brain injury, even worse you don't even seem willing to try and understand. Let's hope you never have to find out the hard way.

If a member of a protected group is being unlawfully discriminated against, this behaviour must be stopped.

Anyone in business who displayed such a view is likely to face legal action or a visit from the police.

If your disability makes you not be able to understand what you are reading correctly, maybe you should refrain from posting such links and quoting them?

Russ · 16-12-2021, 07:50

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

You clearly haven't got a clue what it's like to have a brain injury, even worse you don't even seem willing to try and understand. Let's hope you never have to find out the hard way.
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The irony is strong in this one.

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss

Do you know what it is like to have a brain injury?

I do. And I’m pretty much certain I share none of the OP’s negative traits.

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Originally Posted by Mythica

If your disability makes you not be able to understand what you are reading correctly, maybe you should refrain from posting such links and quoting them?

Oh come on!! Next you’ll be asking Boris to stop lying!

Jaymoss · 16-12-2021, 10:03

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Originally Posted by Russ

I do. And I’m pretty much certain I share none of the OP’s negative traits.

So do I. And because of this I have a level of understanding for the OP and do not target him when he posts as some do on this forum. Easy enough to ignore someone than target them for their issues which I believe is a form of bullying

Mythica · 16-12-2021, 10:10

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss

So do I. And because of this I have a level of understanding for the OP and do not target him when he posts as some do on this forum. Easy enough to ignore someone than target them for their issues which I believe is a form of bullying

No one is targeting Richard. If we all want a level playing field on interacting in the world, having a two tier system were some people are off limits isn't the way to go. If Richard posts on the understanding that he might not understand fully the context of what he has posted, then that's down to him, not everyone else to tip toe around him by allowing him to post things that are potentially untrue. It's so far away from bullying, it's laughable that it's even mentioned.

Russ · 16-12-2021, 10:12

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss

So do I. And because of this I have a level of understanding for the OP and do not target him when he posts as some do on this forum. Easy enough to ignore someone than target them for their issues which I believe is a form of bullying

I refer you to post 919 in this thread.

Jaymoss · 16-12-2021, 10:17

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Originally Posted by Mythica

No one is targeting Richard. If we all want a level playing field on interacting in the world, having a two tier system were some people are off limits isn't the way to go. If Richard posts on the understanding that he might not understand fully the context of what he has posted, then that's down to him, not everyone else to tip toe around him by allowing him to post things that are potentially untrue. It's so far away from bullying, it's laughable that it's even mentioned.

you see I post my point and the reply I get is it is laughable. You could have ignored my post or been at least polite in your disagreement but no you decided to post in a passive aggressive way. Guess you may well sit laughing at this reply too but you just proved my point.

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Originally Posted by Russ

I refer you to post 919 in this thread.

Isn't that what everyone does? Very few people here know each other in the real world. We all have our own biases

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In an ideal world we would all just be nice. I know a pipe dream but one can pray one day it will happen. And I do

Russ · 16-12-2021, 10:21

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss

Isn't that what everyone does? Very few people here know each other in the real world. We all have our own biases.

Not as much as one certain poster on here who is know for being Really Chronic for such behaviour.

As a side note they’re also well known for it on Digital Spy - I know one of the mods and this person is a often a thorn in the side for testing the patience of their team by posting the same kind of thing regularly.

Mythica · 16-12-2021, 10:28

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss

you see I post my point and the reply I get is it is laughable. You could have ignored my post or been at least polite in your disagreement but no you decided to post in a passive aggressive way. Guess you may well sit laughing at this reply too but you just proved my point.

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Isn't that what everyone does? Very few people here know each other in the real world. We all have our own biases

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In an ideal world we would all just be nice. I know a pipe dream but one can pray one day it will happen. And I do

You call it bullying, I call it posting a reasoned reply. I'm not going to refrain from posting because you take things the wrong way, that's not the way forward.