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Old 25-07-2022, 14:07   #4396
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Re: Britain outside the EU

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I have made my position on here very clear many times, but once again:

I voted Remain. Mainly because I knew the extrication process would be a circus and six years on........here we are.

After the referendum result. I accepted and was happy to look forward to moving on, as constantly moaning, whinging, gloating etc is bad for the country, if we're going to go forward we have to go together and I find the joy that some people get for every hiccup and mistake we make whilst we're trying to move on quite disgusting.

My position now. Six years of watching the EU behave as they have done has made me believe that in our future we are better off without their management.
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Old 25-07-2022, 14:15   #4397
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We will rid ourselves of EU laws that are holding us back
Which ones specifically?
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Old 25-07-2022, 14:18   #4398
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Which ones specifically?
The bureaucratic red-tape ones, I’m guessing…

Just giving the non-specific generalised answer in advance.
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Re: Britain outside the EU

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I have made my position on here very clear many times, but once again:

I voted Remain. Mainly because I knew the extrication process would be a circus and six years on........here we are.

After the referendum result. I accepted and was happy to look forward to moving on, as constantly moaning, whinging, gloating etc is bad for the country, if we're going to go forward we have to go together and I find the joy that some people get for every hiccup and mistake we make whilst we're trying to move on quite disgusting.

My position now. Six years of watching the EU behave as they have done has made me believe that in our future we are better off without their management.
By my definition, the last sentence makes you a Brexiter. Mick may choose to disagree of course. And it's not a term of criticism, it's a term of classification.

Unfortunately for you Pierre, the gravity of trade will always tie us into the EU. Leaving the EU won't stop the debate on our optimum relationship with the bloc. As we've seen this weekend, few would agree we have the optimum relationship right now.
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Re: Britain outside the EU

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I have made my position on here very clear many times, but once again:

I voted Remain. Mainly because I knew the extrication process would be a circus and six years on........here we are.

After the referendum result. I accepted and was happy to look forward to moving on, as constantly moaning, whinging, gloating etc is bad for the country, if we're going to go forward we have to go together and I find the joy that some people get for every hiccup and mistake we make whilst we're trying to move on quite disgusting.

My position now. Six years of watching the EU behave as they have done has made me believe that in our future we are better off without their management.
That's the exact reason I voted remain and you can call it gloating but for me there is no joy in it, I just want the people who made promises held accountable when they're exposed as bs, you know like how a proper democracy works

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The bureaucratic red-tape ones, I’m guessing…

Just giving the non-specific generalised answer in advance.
Yeah the ones that protect people from all sorts of nastiness, like dumping raw sewage in the waterways, that's the brexit dividend, the wealthy and unscrupulous taking full advantage of their bought and paid for stooges
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Irony off the chart!

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Irony off the chart!

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That isn’t GB News official account.
Don't mind It's the idea I found funny
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Re: Britain outside the EU

I'm sure he could have saved himself the hassle and got his seafood from Scotland, and champagne from his local booze shop, the sausage/salami could also have been bought in the UK, but tough luck, eh. lol
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I'm sure he could have saved himself the hassle and got his seafood from Scotland, and champagne from his local booze shop, the sausage/salami could also have been bought in the UK, but tough luck, eh. lol
Except it was fake news.

https://www.reuters.com/article/fact...-idUSL1N2Z619Z
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Re: Britain outside the EU

Simon Calder laying out the facts on GB news of all places

https://twitter.com/jonlis1/status/1551525150566359040

was UK choice to become a third country and add all the rules of being a third country
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Simon Calder laying out the facts on GB news of all places

https://twitter.com/jonlis1/status/1551525150566359040

was UK choice to become a third country and add all the rules of being a third country
And it is a choice I’m totally okay with. Pretty standard having to have passport checked and stamped. It does not remove France obligations to adequately staff their border checks. After all, these could be French nationals re-entering their country, and as already mentioned, tourists paying in to French coffers, they need to step up their game, regardless of Brexit.
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Simon Calder laying out the facts on GB news of all places

https://twitter.com/jonlis1/status/1551525150566359040

was UK choice to become a third country and add all the rules of being a third country
Remain campaign: Remember, if you vote Leave, you'll have to show your passport if you want to travel to France - with possible long queues on the M20.

The 52%: Sod that - it's freedom from Brussels' control that I'm after.
If I want to go to France, I'll find a suitable way.


The Guvmin's Remain campaign made no mention of the travel rules that would be consequential on leaving the EU. The 52% would have known that anyway - why do we have passports? We needed them to travel to the EU anyway.

So Calder is right - I just hope he isn't a whingeing Remainer.

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