19-07-2022, 14:24
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Re: Climate Change
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Originally Posted by Julian
We had some of that earlier too Den, went down to 19
Now clear and sunny - 27.9
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Southwest seems to have the best weather in the U.K. Warmed by the sea in the winter, cooled by the sea in the summer.
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19-07-2022, 14:33
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Re: Climate Change
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Southwest seems to have the best weather in the U.K. Warmed by the sea in the winter, cooled by the sea in the summer.
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My friends near the Lizard in Cornwall are always complaining about the rain so if they're right there may be a sweet spot before you get that far west.
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19-07-2022, 14:45
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Re: Climate Change
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You’re looking at the issue back to front.
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What issue ?
I made no mention of issues or anything else other than the subject of people trying to equate the summer of 1976 with this heatwave.
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It has nothing to do with how long a heatwave lasts
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Of course it does, you cannot compare a 2 month heatwave with a 2 day heatwave.
You seem to be doing the same as many on here, and trying to read things into my post that are just not there.
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19-07-2022, 15:33
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Re: Climate Change
I think those that choose to draw comparisons with 76 forget that some factories had to close due to water shortages & that excess deaths were up 20% for the year. There were a myriad of issues A case of rose tinted (sun)glasses
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19-07-2022, 15:47
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Re: Climate Change
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees
I think those that choose to draw comparisons with 76 forget that some factories had to close due to water shortages & that excess deaths were up 20% for the year. There were a myriad of issues A case of rose tinted (sun)glasses
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And today's temps are over 4c hotter than anything in '76. However its not about today its about the trend over the last few decades. Some seem to not to want to face up to the issue. Or they reckon its not going to affect them too much , it's the next generations problem, typical of so much atm.
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19-07-2022, 15:58
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Re: Climate Change
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it's the next generations problem
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Well that is accurate, is it not ?
Seems pretty clear from the predictions it will be their problem, and those that follow them as well.
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19-07-2022, 16:05
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Re: Climate Change
Lots of fires across London now.
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19-07-2022, 16:13
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Re: Climate Change
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In recorded history not ever
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19-07-2022, 17:08
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Re: Climate Change
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In recorded history not ever
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News reports do state "ever".
The thermometer was invented in 1592 and the UK was formed in 1801 so they're probably right.
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19-07-2022, 17:24
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Re: Climate Change
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Lots of fires across London now.
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Excellent news. Nothing makes politicians stand up and take something seriously the same as it happening in London.
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19-07-2022, 17:29
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Re: Climate Change
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Well that is accurate, is it not ?
Seems pretty clear from the predictions it will be their problem, and those that follow them as well.
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Perhaps we could help our children by doing something about it, making their futures less difficult?
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19-07-2022, 17:31
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Re: Climate Change
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Perhaps we could help our children by doing something about it, making their futures less difficult?
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The idea of the “can’t pay, won’t pay” generation that sold off all the state assets and saddled it with trillions of pounds of debt investing in the future is fanciful. They’d rather save a fraction of a penny in the pound in tax.
Future generations exist to extract wealth from through privatisation and extending the borrowing amount and length of mortgages.
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19-07-2022, 19:35
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Re: Climate Change
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Originally Posted by Jaymoss
In recorded history not ever
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Recorded history (for this kind of thing especially) is not really very long, nor were temperature measurements as accurate, esp more than about 400 years ago.
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Perhaps we could help our children by doing something about it, making their futures less difficult?
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Quite possibly, but again, that isnt what was said, or even mentioned.
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19-07-2022, 20:09
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Re: Climate Change
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
Doing nothing about climate change is not an option, if you are able to take on board the points in Chris's post.
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No one said “do nothing”, we’ve done lots and can continue - but ( as you mentioned yourself earlier) let’s build our replacement capacity before we turn off all the older stuff.
Makes sense
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
News reports do state "ever".
The thermometer was invented in 1592 and the UK was formed in 1801 so they're probably right.
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First records began in 1659, and subsequent recording was patchy since. The met office didn’t start until 1914
https://www.itv.com/news/2022-07-19/...-records-begin
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