Climate Change

[SnoopZ]

Originally Posted by jonbxx

Ooof, working in a cleanroom in this weather wouldn't be fun! My first science job was fully gowned, gloved and masked and the air conditioning was close to non-existent. Puddles of sweat in the fingers of your gloves is not nice

It's actually really comfortable where I work so no sweating, everyone is wearing shorts under their full suit.

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by SnoopZ

everyone is wearing shorts under their full suit.

Well you hope they are.

[ianch99]

For those equating 1976 with today, an interesting global heat anomaly map from NASA:

Originally Posted by ianch99

For those equating 1976 with today, an interesting global heat anomaly map from NASA:

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You cannot equate them.

The heatwave in 1976 lasted two months, this one is two days.

This one is a little hotter at its maximum (by about 3C atm, that may increase slightly more).

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Originally Posted by Mr K

35.9c was the hottest temp. in 1976. We exceeded that today with 38.1c and we'll exceed it again tomorrow.
We have a problem.

Yes, a lack of air con.

Originally Posted by Paul

You cannot equate them.

The heatwave in 1976 lasted two months, this one is two days.

This one is a little hotter at its maximum (by about 3C atm, that may increase slightly more).

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Yes, a lack of air con.

You’re looking at the issue back to front.

It has nothing to do with how long a heatwave lasts, which is all to do with the movement of air masses, and everything to do with how much solar energy is being retained by Earth’s atmosphere, which means that when we get a heatwave, no matter how long or short it is, its peak temperature is higher.

In climate terms, 3 degrees is a lot.

[1andrew1]

This is a useful Nasa infographic too.
https://twitter.com/BestForBritain/s...09663378788355

[Julian]

40.2 degrees recorded at Heathrow

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

This is a useful Nasa infographic too.
https://twitter.com/BestForBritain/s...09663378788355

No matter how much its dumbed down, some will still have their heads in the sand. (presumably to try and keep cool!).
Today is a symptom, the long term trend tells the story.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Julian

40.2 degrees recorded at Heathrow

Thunder and lightning down in deepest Devon this morning with a temperature now at 23 degrees.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Is all that good stuff before or after we trash the economy.

The "energy independence" one is also working out quite well too.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Is all that good stuff before or after we trash the economy.

The "energy independence" one is also working out quite well too.

A trashed economy we can survive. A trashed World we can't.
Climate Change will trash economies anyway.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Is all that good stuff before or after we trash the economy.

The "energy independence" one is also working out quite well too.

Doing nothing about climate change is not an option, if you are able to take on board the points in Chris's post.

It is not a choice between economic growth with coal-fired power stations or adhering to net zero. As we've seen with the current situation in Europe, high temperatures result in lower productivity and the need to spend more and more on more resilient infrastructure. The fewer heatwaves we can avoid in the future, the better. That requires a net zero approach and as a rich country, we should be able to afford it.

[Julian]

Originally Posted by denphone

Thunder and lightning down in deepest Devon this morning with a temperature now at 23 degrees.

We had some of that earlier too Den, went down to 19

Now clear and sunny - 27.9

Originally Posted by Mr K

A trashed economy we can survive. A trashed World we can't.
Climate Change will trash economies anyway.