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Old 28-06-2022, 17:08   #2881
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One might conclude that Starmer supports one type/class of worker and not the other.
One might…

But that would be extremely simplistic and probably incorrect, like saying because you support John Redwood’s actions & views, you don’t support any other Tory MP’s actions and views…
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Old 28-06-2022, 17:18   #2882
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One might…

But that would be extremely simplistic and probably incorrect, like saying because you support John Redwood’s actions & views, you don’t support any other Tory MP’s actions and views…
Exactly,
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Old 28-06-2022, 17:51   #2883
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The polls as well as the by-elections show Labour ahead. The only hope for the Conservatives is a change of leadership to someone untainted like Hunt.
Andrew, it’s mid-term! Don’t get your hopes up!

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So he’s wrong if he supports the strike and he’s wrong if he doesn’t support the strike?

I thought he was supporting the workers - those trying to get to work by train?
Starmer supports the aim of the strike. His plan is to enter into negotiation over beer and sandwiches and then give them what they want.
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Old 28-06-2022, 18:37   #2884
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Andrew, it’s mid-term! Don’t get your hopes up!

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Starmer supports the aim of the strike. His plan is to enter into negotiation over beer and sandwiches and then give them what they want.
Your opinion?

How can he enter into negotiations, as he is neither the employer or the Government?

btw - "mid-term"?

The Conservatives have been running the country for over 12 years…
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Andrew, it’s mid-term! Don’t get your hoopes up!
If I was pro Labour, LibDem or SNP, I would want Johnson to stay in power. I'm not aligned to any party.

But even you must realise, albeit later than sooner, that for the good of the country, he needs to go now.
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Old 28-06-2022, 19:02   #2886
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Your opinion?

How can he enter into negotiations, as he is neither the employer or the Government?

btw - "mid-term"?

The Conservatives have been running the country for over 12 years…
Ahem (again). You may recognise this post from the previous page of this thread. [Clue: It was one of yours].

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This is their biggest weakness, they don't have a position on anything.

What is Starmer's position on the rail dispute?

You posted the following link:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...strike-pickets



My comment related to that. This is what he’d do if he was in charge.

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Old 28-06-2022, 21:28   #2887
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So, opinion expressed as a statement of fact…

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His plan is to enter into negotiation over beer and sandwiches and then give them what they want.
(He can’t enter into negotiation as he’s not in charge…)
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So, opinion expressed as a statement of fact…



(He can’t enter into negotiation as he’s not in charge…)
Hugh, don’t. You’re better than that.

Entering into negotiation is what he would do if he was PM. We know that, because that’s what he’s telling Boris to do.
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Hugh, don’t. You’re better than that.

Entering into negotiation is what he would do if he was PM. We know that, because that’s what he’s telling Boris to do.
You’re better than that - if that’s what you meant, you would have said

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Stop arguing over symantics, its getting tiresome.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-62002088

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Tory deputy chief whip Chris Pincher has resigned from the government, as a newspaper alleged he groped two men at a private members' club.

In his resignation letter, he told the PM he "drank far too much" and "embarrassed myself and other people".

Witnesses told the BBC he was seen "extremely drunk" at the Carlton Club, the Conservative Party members' club in London on Wednesday night.
In related news, some of the top trending subjects on Twitter are related to a Private Eye column today, about a subject previously reported in Lord Ashcroft’s book about Carrie Johnson.
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In related news, some of the top trending subjects on Twitter are related to a Private Eye column today, about a subject previously reported in Lord Ashcroft’s book about Carrie Johnson.
Is there a blow by blow account?

/me hopes not.....
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In related news, some of the top trending subjects on Twitter are related to a Private Eye column today, about a subject previously reported in Lord Ashcroft’s book about Carrie Johnson.
It's like one giant school playground out there.
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It's like one giant school playground out there.
I didn't get drunk and grope people in my playground. Sure it was against the school rules.
Its just another day in Toryland, meanwhile the country collapses...
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I didn't get drunk and grope people in my playground. Sure it was against the school rules.
Its just another day in Toryland, meanwhile the country collapses...
This is the story. I wonder if the unfortunately-named Pincher will resign as an MP? The Party wouldn't like a third by-election loss.
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Chris Pincher, 52, resigned from his role as deputy chief whip after admitting he had drunk "far too much" and "embarrassed myself and other people" on a night out.

Questions are growing today about why the party has allowed him to remain as an MP.

Labour deputy leader Angela Rayner said: "This latest episode shows how far standards in public life have been degraded on Boris Johnson's watch.

"Boris Johnson has serious questions to answer about why Chris Pincher was given this role in the first place and how he can remain a Conservative MP.

"The Conservative Party is so mired in sleaze and scandal that it is totally unable to tackle the challenges facing the British people."
https://news.sky.com/story/politics-...-pmqs-12593360
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