Russia has invaded Ukraine - Page 57

Pierre · 08-03-2022, 13:35

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Someone made an interesting point in a discussion this morning in that, if Putin gets away with these invasions, absolutely nowhere is safe.

If Scotland were to gain independence, it would no longer be in NATO and would have no nuclear deterrent.

They might come after the Falklands too!

RichardCoulter · 08-03-2022, 13:50

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Originally Posted by Pierre

They might come after the Falklands too!

I'm sure that if he carries on getting away with it that Putins dream would eventually be world domination.

pip08456 · 08-03-2022, 13:53

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Originally Posted by Pierre

If this continues, with an unhinged man with the power to launch feeling that only option to save face is to launch ...well it doesn't need explaining does it?

That's why this needs to end soon.

If you think one man alone has the power to press a button that potentionally means mass suicide you are very much mistaken.

RichardCoulter · 08-03-2022, 13:55

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Originally Posted by pip08456

If you think one man alone has the power to press a button that potentionally means mass suicide you are very much mistaken.

Well, for very good reason, we have controls in place to prevent this. I have no idea if Russia is the same or not as, to people like Putin, power is intoxicating.

**Hugh** · 08-03-2022, 13:56

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Originally Posted by Chris

Things actually got pretty dicey late in 1983 as well, though that’s not so widely known.

https://www.theatlantic.com/internat...hought/276290/

There we’re a lot of lose calls/incidents in the 70s and 80s - they just weren’t publicised…

Pierre · 08-03-2022, 13:57

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Originally Posted by pip08456

If you think one man alone has the power to press a button that potentionally means mass suicide you are very much mistaken.

Well, I'm sure Putin has definitely not surrounded himself with fanatics that will do his bidding.

pip08456 · 08-03-2022, 14:14

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Originally Posted by Pierre

Well, I'm sure Putin has definitely not surrounded himself with fanatics that will do his bidding.

He can surround himself with as many yes men as he wants, there is still a chain of command to the missile silos far removed from his yes men.

**Mick** · 08-03-2022, 14:25

NYT: Biden expected to ban Russian oil imports.

U.S. President Joe Biden is expected to announce new sanctions against Russia, including the import ban, today, on March 8, the New York Times reported, citing a senior U.S. official.

RichardCoulter · 08-03-2022, 14:26

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Originally Posted by Pierre

Well, I'm sure Putin has definitely not surrounded himself with fanatics that will do his bidding.

Good point, meaning that any 'controls' in place would be meaningless.

Edit: I hope to God that you're right PIP.

Putin has visited the UK several times. Apparently, back in 2003 Putin was here for a state visit and rudely kept the Queen waiting for 14 minutes.

David Blunkett was also in attendance with his guide dog. When Putin eventually arrived, Blunketts guide dog started barking very loudly for no reason. Afterwards, he went over to the Queen to apologise for the noise, to which the Queen replied "Dogs have very interesting instincts, don't they?"!

It would be great if he could pop over for another visit, there again, if anything happened to him this too could start another war. They don't seem to like their own treatment of people being done to them.

Does anyone know what happened to the opposition guy that was poisoned, who survived and returned to Russia?

**Mick** · 08-03-2022, 14:32

Belarus conducted phishing attacks against Ukraine, Poland.

Since Russia invaded Ukraine on Feb. 24, Ghostwriter hacking group in Belarus has tried to get credentials of Ukrainian officials and members of the Polish military, the Washington Post reported citing Google. - Kyiv Independent

papa smurf · 08-03-2022, 14:34

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Good point, meaning that any 'controls' in place would be meaningless.

Edit: I hope to God that you're right PIP.

Putin has visited the UK several times. Apparently, back in 2003 Putin was here for a state visit and rudely kept the Queen waiting for 14 minutes.

David Blunkett was also in attendance with his guide dog. When Putin eventually arrived, Blunketts guide dog started barking very loudly for no reason. Afterwards, he went over to the Queen to apologise for the noise, to which the Queen replied "Dogs have very interesting instincts, don't they?"!

It would be great if he could pop over for another visit, there again, if anything happened to him this too could start another war. They don't seem to like their own treatment of people being done to them.

Does anyone know what happened to the opposition guy that was poisoned, who survived and returned to Russia?

Prison i believe.

**Mick** · 08-03-2022, 14:37

GrimUpNorth · 08-03-2022, 14:43

Just been watching an article on CNN about a Ukrainian hotline that's been launched to help Russian families locate there loved ones who are in the Russian army. I suppose it's also helping spread the truth in Russia.

They're saying they've had more than 6000 calls to the Comeback From Ukraine Alive hotline. You can read more about it here

**Mick** · 08-03-2022, 14:58

U.S Senators seek to lock down Russia's gold reserves.

A bipartisan group of senators has introduced a bill seeking to apply secondary sanctions to U.S. entities that trade in gold in Russia, the Axios news site reported on March 8. - Kyiv Independent

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Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth

Just been watching an article on CNN about a Ukrainian hotline that's been launched to help Russian families locate there loved ones who are in the Russian army. I suppose it's also helping spread the truth in Russia.

They're saying they've had more than 6000 calls to the Comeback From Ukraine Alive hotline. You can read more about it here

They did this quite early on. These Russian soldiers are more or less conscripts, some surrendering easily, some seen crying for their mothers. Other Russian soldiers have reportedly express dismay and that they have been duped, told they were on a training exercise, only to find they’ve been thrust in to a real war.

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U.S foreign policy heavyweights call for limited no-fly zone over Ukraine.

The group of 27 foreign policy leaders urged the U.S. to impose a limited no-fly zone over Ukraine starting with protection for humanitarian corridors, Politico reported.

RichardCoulter · 08-03-2022, 15:01

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Originally Posted by Mick

U.S Senators seek to lock down Russia's gold reserves.

A bipartisan group of senators has introduced a bill seeking to apply secondary sanctions to U.S. entities that trade in gold in Russia, the Axios news site reported on March 8. - Kyiv Independent

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They did this quite early on. These Russian soldiers are more or less conscripts, some surrendering easily, some seen crying for their mothers. Other Russian soldiers have reportedly express dismay and that they have been duped, told they were on a training exercise, only to find they’ve been thrust in to a real war.

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U.S foreign policy heavyweights call for limited no-fly zone over Ukraine.

The group of 27 foreign policy leaders urged the U.S. to impose a limited no-fly zone over Ukraine starting with protection for humanitarian corridors, Politico reported.

They were also told that they would be welcomed with open arms as they were freeing the Ukraine people from Nazi rule!!!