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Old 05-05-2023, 21:56   #31
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Re: Charlie Farley

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The official reason is the level of verification required in order to get any of those IDs. It is, or so I read, notably harder to get a 60+ card than it is any of the others.

That may be true, or it may not be. But the very fact that you can use one but not the others has been echoing loudly amongst the usual suspects on Twitter. I’ve seen the phrase ‘voter suppression’ a lot in recent weeks.
This might well have backfired.

It was of course intended to suppress non-Tory voters, but looks like it may have suppressed the elderly Tory vote

Guess Voter ID will get the boot very shortly. Democracy in action, UK style...
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Old 05-05-2023, 23:58   #32
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Nonsense. If fraud was that easily noticeable, then they wouldn't try it. The FACT that people have been caught by ACCIDENT(ie NOT investigation) shows that it can and DOES go undetected.
You seem to have a problem with your shift key. And your logic.
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Re: Charlie Farley

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This might well have backfired.

It was of course intended to suppress non-Tory voters, but looks like it may have suppressed the elderly Tory vote

Guess Voter ID will get the boot very shortly. Democracy in action, UK style...
You may be onto something! The Forum's favourite politician has tweeted
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Many former Conservative voters stayed at home...
https://twitter.com/johnredwood/stat...37209636462597

Although many former Conservative voters also went out and voted Labour and LibDem instead.
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Old 06-05-2023, 00:29   #34
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Re: Charlie Farley

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You seem to have a problem with your shift key. And your logic.
You obviously have a problem with facts.
Discovered by chance as someone reported odd goings on.

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Early on a June morning last year, four police officers drew up outside a warehouse on a deserted trading estate in Birmingham. Inside they found several men sitting at a table with postal ballots piled in front of them.
"I saw plenty of ballot papers with crosses on them and I saw unsealed envelopes that were of A5 size," one of the constables said later.
What they were witnessing, elections commissioner Richard Mawrey, QC said yesterday, was the three Labour candidates for the Aston ward in Birmingham caught "red handed" carrying out postal voting fraud by altering ballot papers or filling in blank papers they had collected from householders.
It could have led to the uncovering of organised forgery and corruption, through a campaign of bribery, death threats and intimidation.
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The warehouse incident was one of the more colourful examples of postal voting fraud heard by the court during the four-week hearing.
The judge identified 15 types of fraud which included thousands of votes in favour of Labour where the signature of the purported voter differed from that on the application for a postal vote, and the wholesale theft of ballot papers.
Corrupt postmen had handed over sacks of postal ballots to Labour candidates, little boys had been paid to steal postal ballots from letterboxes and bags full of postal votes had arrived late at the count, to be included without question in the poll.
That just one area of the country.
With selection of Labour MPs and councillors, voting fraud was rife. People were being signed up as party members without their knowledge, and their votes stolen.
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Re: Charlie Farley

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My guess is that what they’re actually after is ‘family voting’ which is prevalent in certain ethnic communities in certain metropolitan areas that typically vote Labour. In that sense they’re trying to tackle something that is illegal, but by its nature goes largely unreported. Given the racial aspect to it they couldn’t say out loud that that’s what they’re doing.

Obviously that would explain why they’re doing voter ID, not why they’ve devised such an exceptionally complex proof-of-ID system to go with it.
Not largely unreported on cableforum, I started a thread on it myself some while back

Yes exceptionally complicated and expensive, no money for nurses but money no object for this nonsense. This shower can't even win a corrupt election, don't they realise it's a governments duty to make voting easier or something

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This might well have backfired.

It was of course intended to suppress non-Tory voters, but looks like it may have suppressed the elderly Tory vote

Guess Voter ID will get the boot very shortly. Democracy in action, UK style...
Prepare for them to scrap elections altogether, they may even claim it's the will of the people
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Old 06-05-2023, 02:00   #36
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Re: Voter ID

I didnt vote.
The only qualifying Photo ID I have is a passport, and thats locked away in a Safe.
I'm not getting it out and wandering the streets with it just to satisfy this unnecessary stupidity.
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Old 06-05-2023, 10:30   #37
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Re: Voter ID

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I didnt vote.
The only qualifying Photo ID I have is a passport, and thats locked away in a Safe.
I'm not getting it out and wandering the streets with it just to satisfy this unnecessary stupidity.
How strange.
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Old 06-05-2023, 11:37   #38
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Re: Charlie Farley

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You obviously have a problem with facts.
Discovered by chance as someone reported odd goings on.

That just one area of the country.
With selection of Labour MPs and councillors, voting fraud was rife. People were being signed up as party members without their knowledge, and their votes stolen.
Nice try, but there were NO additional ID checks for POSTAL votes at this election so what was the point of the new system?
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Old 06-05-2023, 12:40   #39
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Re: Charlie Farley

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Nice try, but there were NO additional ID checks for POSTAL votes at this election so what was the point of the new system?
Shows the extent to which certain people go to commit voting fraud. Far from being the only instance and not just postal voting.
The central point is that the number of cases only appears to be low because there wasn't a system in place for checking these things. There was nothing stopping more than a dozen people being registered to vote at one small flat.
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Re: Voter ID

Or maybe the central point is that the numbers of cases only appears low because the number of cases IS low. And have you stopped to think that maybe those dozen people DO live in a small flat, sleeping in shifts/working in shifts to keep the costs down.

You come across as someone who likes crying wolf.
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Re: Voter ID

I repaid the the gov by voting labour for the first time in my life,pick the id and the Tax out of that sushi
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Re: Voter ID

Mark Drakeford, First Minister of the Welsh Arsembly said of voter ID checks.......

"The way they think they can win elections is to learn the lessons from the far right in the United States."

He added: "That is to make it more difficult for people who might not support them to turn up and cast their vote."
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Re: Voter ID

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I repaid the the gov by voting labour for the first time in my life,pick the id and the Tax out of that sushi
Well because the then Liebour leader Steptoe swapped to remain, I switch to Tory for the first time and can nver go back.

Perhapes we should take our ID cards? Oh yeah people cried it infringed rights or comething.

Prehaps ID card should be used, many other countries have them without issues.
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Prehaps ID card should be used, many other countries have them without issues.
I would gladly carry an ID card, if it was free as in most countries. And if it only held details I accepted as necessary.
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I would gladly carry an ID card, if it was free as in most countries. And if it only held details I accepted as necessary.
What would be on an ID card that isn't in a passport?
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