Police to get tough on internet trolls.

... firms should not be allowed to blame users for the damaging content posted on social media sites

Why not ?

You are responsible for what you post, as is anyone else.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Paul M

Why not ?

You are responsible for what you post, as is anyone else.

Exactly as people know exactly what they are posting as we all do.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Paul M

Why not ?

You are responsible for what you post, as is anyone else.

This. So, so this

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Sites to be forced by law to sign a code of conduct to protect young & vulnerable people after being accused of acting as though they were above the law:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-suicides.html

Why is it that the morons in the media fail to read and comprehend their own articles. If somebody goes looking for certain content, that cannot be the fault of "social media". The interest was before the looking. It is the mainstream media that advertises these things much more than anybody else, and that includes articles complaining about issues. Just look at the brainwashing and "grooming" that goes on in TV soaps.


There are so many things that as a kid never even occurred to me, as the media wasn't forcing their ideas on me or others.

[Russ]

As someone with a recognised disability I want to make it clear than none of this crap is in MY name.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by denphone

Exactly as people know exactly what they are posting as we all do.

Damien made a very wise comment in a different thread yesterday, which if people took note of, would resolve a lot of problems with interaction on the net:

Originally Posted by Damien

Everyone calm down and stop taking pot-shots at each other.

This is closed for a bit to let everyone take a time out. Remember you're talking to actual people who you might well get on with if it wasn't for the anonymising nature of the internet.

Originally Posted by nomadking

Why is it that the morons in the media fail to read and comprehend their own articles. If somebody goes looking for certain content, that cannot be the fault of "social media". The interest was before the looking. It is the mainstream media that advertises these things much more than anybody else, and that includes articles complaining about issues. Just look at the brainwashing and "grooming" that goes on in TV soaps.


There are so many things that as a kid never even occurred to me, as the media wasn't forcing their ideas on me or others.

Actually, that's not how the algorithms work - if other people who looked at the (quite innocent) thing you are looking at then went on to look at stuff not so innocent, the social media will then suggest those other (not so innocent) things in your feed.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Actually, that's not how the algorithms work - if other people who looked at the (quite innocent) thing you are looking at then went on to look at stuff not so innocent, the social media will then suggest those other (not so innocent) things in your feed.

They are searching for specific things at some point. They don't take a scattergun approach and send everything to everybody.


A classic example of media hype actually being the thing highlighting something, is when the media produce articles on fashion runway models and how thin they are. More girls would be aware of that situation BECAUSE of those media reports. The more the media keep banging on about anorexia, self-harm, etc, the more people are likely to carry out those things. That concept is not lost on writers and producers, who are the REAL problem.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Russ

As someone with a recognised disability I want to make it clear than none of this crap is in MY name.

So you think that efforts to stop children and other vulnerable members of society from being bullied to the point of suicide etc is "crap". Interesting.

Originally Posted by Hugh

Actually, that's not how the algorithms work - if other people who looked at the (quite innocent) thing you are looking at then went on to look at stuff not so innocent, the social media will then suggest those other (not so innocent) things in your feed.

Originally Posted by nomadking

They are searching for specific things at some point. They don't take a scattergun approach and send everything to everybody.


A classic example of media hype actually being the thing highlighting something, is when the media produce articles on fashion runway models and how thin they are. More girls would be aware of that situation BECAUSE of those media reports. The more the media keep banging on about anorexia, self-harm, etc, the more people are likely to carry out those things. That concept is not lost on writers and producers, who are the REAL problem.

You don’t appear to understand what I wrote - "if other people who looked at the (quite innocent) thing you are looking at then went on to look at stuff not so innocent, the social media will then suggest those other (not so innocent) things in your feed.".

This is especially true if those people are in your social media circle (if they are "friends" or "friends of friends").

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Hugh

You don’t appear to understand what I wrote - "if other people who looked at the (quite innocent) thing you are looking at then went on to look at stuff not so innocent, the social media will then suggest those other (not so innocent) things in your feed.".

This is especially true if those people are in your social media circle (if they are "friends" or "friends of friends").

Even supposing that is what happens, to go further than an initial look takes an actual choice to view that and anything further.


The much bigger problem is the relentless brainwashing and grooming that the mainstream media does. That is mostly unsolicited.

No ‘supposing" about it - I was on the Google European CIO Group, and that is how they explained it.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Hugh

No ‘supposing" about it - I was on the Google European CIO Group, and that is how they explained it.

The "supposing" refers to cases where they have received info that was completely unsolicited? How many are there, if any.

The fact remains that "to go further than an initial look takes an actual choice". They are not going to deluge you with info.

TV programmes that say at the end, "if you are affected by any of the issues, contact ..." are more to blame because they are unsolicited.

Yes, heaven forfend we should try to help and support those who may have issues...

[Russ]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

So you think that efforts to stop children and other vulnerable members of society from being bullied to the point of suicide etc is "crap". Interesting.

Picking/choosing words in and out of context - equally “interesting”.