Police to get tough on internet trolls.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Sirius

Richard please be clear i never have and never will talk about ways to circumnavigate set-top box encryption on here or anywhere else. As for your other accusations that Virgin allowed this to happen you are completely wrong and if someone was found to be doing it they would be instantly dismissed.

I didn't think it would matter as it relates to an old system from long ago, but fair enough.

I did hear from the engineers ex girlfriend later on that Virgin (or whoever they contracted it out to) had found out he was selling these dodgy boxes and dismissed him. This was years ago though.

[Itshim]

RemGuess it was just banter but I clearly remember being told that there was a work around .in the days of ntl, no idea if in fact it was true.

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

I didn't think it would matter as it relates to an old system from long ago, but fair enough.

I did hear from the engineers ex girlfriend later on that Virgin (or whoever they contracted it out to) had found out he was selling these dodgy boxes and dismissed him. This was years ago though.

remember seeing a market in the isle of Wight with a stall offering to chip sky boxes , was there every time I went so at least a couple of months ,guess it worked,

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Itshim

RemGuess it was just banter but I clearly remember being told that there was a work around .in the days of ntl, no idea if in fact it was true.

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remember seeing a market in the isle of Wight with a stall offering to chip sky boxes , was there every time I went so at least a couple of months ,guess it worked,

They could chip Sky analogue boxes en masse, but i've read that hacking a Sky box only works for that particular box. As each box would have to be individually done, it's not feasible. I assume in the world of digital that it's the same fir Virgin.

I was offered 'free' Virgin recently, presumably it's now done via card sharing, but I'm not botherred for sports and I can get Sky Movies for £1 a month legitimately with Now TV, but these days they aren't even worth that!

It's not exactly free either as you have to pay a one off cost and the box may work for a year or maybe a day with no come back, so there's the financial implications as well as the moral and legal implications to consider.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Itshim

RemGuess it was just banter but I clearly remember being told that there was a work around .in the days of ntl, no idea if in fact it was true.

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remember seeing a market in the isle of Wight with a stall offering to chip sky boxes , was there every time I went so at least a couple of months ,guess it worked,

In the days of NTL it was easy later further encription was implemented but was soon hacked. The last encription when I had a dodgy box was Nagra 2. but in 2009 VM changed to Nagra 3. I gave up on it then.

I've just found out that Nagra 3 was hacked within 3 yrs.

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Originally Posted by Itshim

RemGuess it was just banter but I clearly remember being told that there was a work around .in the days of ntl, no idea if in fact it was true.

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remember seeing a market in the isle of Wight with a stall offering to chip sky boxes , was there every time I went so at least a couple of months ,guess it worked,

In the days of NTL it was easy later further encription was implemented but was soon hacked. The last encription when I had a dodgy box was Nagra 2. but in 2009 VM changed to Nagra 3. I gave up on it then.

I've just found out that Nagra 3 was hacked within 3 yrs.Here's a reminder. https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...php?t=33658868

[RichardCoulter]

Just watching Keir Starmer doing an interview about protecting women from harm on social media on ITV yesterday morning.

He says that it cannot be right that individuals are expected to do all the work to deal with trolls, people that abuse them etc and that he wants platform operators to take more responsibility.

I don't know if this would be via the Online Safety Bill or some other measure.

[jfman]

How will he protect women from harm if he can’t even define one?

[Ms NTL]

Originally Posted by jfman

How will he protect women from harm if he can’t even define one?

Below the belt mate!

[Hom3r]

Well there is one thing people are forgetting.

The Dark Web.

Its not illegal to use, but obviously there is illegal stuff on there, and if you are in those groups or circles, I would guess that there are whatsApp type apps that make WhatsApp encyption look weak.

So banning WhatsApp is pointless.

[Jaymoss]

Originally Posted by Hom3r

Well there is one thing people are forgetting.

The Dark Web.

Its not illegal to use, but obviously there is illegal stuff on there, and if you are in those groups or circles, I would guess that there are whatsApp type apps that make WhatsApp encyption look weak.

So banning WhatsApp is pointless.

The Dark Web is highly scrutinised and Tor Nodes get high jacked and even set up by security agencies. I am sure said security services have eyes and ears in most places but on the same note I am guessing most of what they see is not worth the time and resources to follow it up

Joe Bloggs buying a few gram of coke is hardly crime of the century and a lot of the sites are hosted well out of their jurisdiction anyway. Not that I know any of this for sure or ever go there just my logic

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Ms NTL

Below the belt mate!

Well you should check!

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Just watching Keir Starmer doing an interview about protecting women from harm on social media on ITV yesterday morning.

You mean like avoid using it.

How does "Social Media" harm you ? its not a physical entity.
Also, why only "Women" ? What about Men ? Inbetweens ? Children ?

Hes just another of these useless idiots that mutters things he thinks [some] people want to hear.

[RichardCoulter]

In 2018 it was made illegal to cold call people to try to sell them pension products, with a £500,000 fine for those that flouted the law. This was due to a lot of people being scammed.

This summer the Online Safety Billl will enlarge rules about cold calling. It will become illegal in any situation, even for legitimate companies, to cold call anyone if it involves any situation being given to the caller about your financial situation.or details eg credit card number for a 'postage surcharge' Anyonevthat doesc so will become subject to the same fines as the 2018 law

More importantly, anyone who receives such a call will instantly know that such calls received areceithercscammers or undertaking illegal activity.

This to be backedcup with ac30 million pound investment in a bew 'National Fraud Squad'.

Action Fraud are to have their 120 call handlers increased to 500 to help deal with complaints.

Meanwhile, Ofcom are to take action over spoof calls, 70% of which come from abroad.(usually Russia or Africa).

They make the number look like it's ones bank calling, fir example, by removing the international dialling code and faking the number. Technology will be made available to stop such attempts at source.even before your phone even rings.

BT have been trialling this on a smaller scale and managed to stop 65% of calls getting through.

This will be rolled out to all telephony operators from 15 May 2023.

Anyone who wishes to use the various unlnown number blocking services available from phone complanies can do so for free, apart from Virgin Media customers who have to pay a charge of £3 per month.

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Originally Posted by Paul

You mean like avoid using it.

How does "Social Media" harm you ? its not a physical entity.
Also, why only "Women" ? What about Men ? Inbetweens ? Children ?

Hes just another of these useless idiots that mutters things he thinks [some] people want to hear.

Women were the subject of the interview.

Those legitimately using social media should not have to do without the benefits of doing so because of trolls etc, it's the perpetrators of such behaviour that Nedd to be dealt with.

Social media & the internet can do a lot of harm to people in allsorts of situations, hence the need for the Onlime Harms Act.

I always avoided cold callers by having an answer phone until my house phone became defunct.Now I just don't answer any unknown numbers on my mobile. So I have no issues with cold callers at all.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Maggy

I always avoided cold callers by having an answer phone until my house phone became defunct.Now I just don't answer any unknown numbers on my mobile. So I have no issues with cold callers at all.

The thing is that they are able to spoof numbers to make it appear that they are from a number that you know eg your bank.

There's the 'mum' scam where they pretend to be the child of a parent and send a text saying that they are in trouble & need money urgently. They may say that your daughter has lost/had stolen her phone. Despite being told this, always ring her on the number(s) you have for her to check it's legitimate first.

Hopefully the changes later this month will stop most (or even all) of these calls.

[Itshim]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

The thing is that they are able to spoof numbers to make it appear that they are from a number that you know eg your bank.

There's the 'mum' scam where they pretend to be the child of a parent and send a text saying that they are in trouble & need money urgently. They may say that your daughter has lost/had stolen her phone. Despite being told this, always ring her on the number(s) you have for her to check it's legitimate first.

Hopefully the changes later this month will stop most (or even all) of these calls.

We live in a no cold calling zone, hasn't stop it . Even with signs all over the streets. The speed limit is 20mph and that is ignored, guessing what ever the law says it won't stop it. However it might get a few votes