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Old Yesterday, 21:29   #2866
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Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine

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I wonder what Russia is going to do now?

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France has sent its first troops officially to Ukraine. They have been deployed in support of the Ukrainian 54th Independent Mechanized Brigade in Slavyansk. The French soldiers are drawn from France’s 3rd Infantry Regiment, which is one of the main elements of France’s Foreign Legion (Légion étrangère).
https://asiatimes.com/2024/05/france...e-battlefront/

That is of course if the source is reliable.

Here’s the original article (that everyone else appears to be promulgating) on the author’s substack.

https://weapons.substack.com/p/franc...ops-to-ukraine

The link in his post supporting his assertion appears to be non-viable..

http://first%20units%20of%20the%20fr...o%20slavyansk/

Strangely enough, a similar story was published by TASS, the Russian state-owned news agency, on the same day - I wonder if that was the source of Stephen Bryen’s article?

https://tass.com/politics/1769801

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MOSCOW, April 3. /TASS/. France could bring about 1,500 servicemen to combat readiness in April for deployment to Ukraine, Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said.

"New information is emerging about the preparation by Paris of a military contingent to be sent to Ukraine. To this end, the command of the French Foreign Legion in early March approved the makeup of a battalion tactical group of about 1,500 people," she said at a news conference. "It is expected that in April the group will be brought to full combat readiness for an operational deployment to the Ukrainian theater of military operations."
Point of information - the French 3rd Infantry Regiment are Jungle Warfare specialists, based in Guyana, South America - what value would there be in attaching them to the Ukrainian 54th Independent Mechanized Brigade, which is mainly Tanks, Artillery, and MLRS?


I am sure it is pure coincidence that this article appears just as President Xi is visiting President Macron in France…
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There are already five NATO members* who have borders with Russia (or Russian territories), so not sure what point you’re trying to make?
None of whom have been invaded, and all of whom would get better resourced than Ukraine.
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None of whom have been invaded, and all of whom would get better resourced than Ukraine.
Still cant work out what your point is
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Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine

My point has been consistent throughout - Ukraine are only in this war because of the West who will ultimately let them down.

The Mujahadeen
Saddam
Gaddafi
Afghanistan second time round

Useful allies at one point but disposed of when it ceased to be cost effective. But hey trust America, they mean it this time, I’m sure.
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Ukraine are only in this war because of the West who will ultimately let them down.
Gosh, and there I was thinking they were in a war becasue Russia invaded them. I'm sure the president would be proud of you comrade.
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Gosh, and there I was thinking they were in a war becasue Russia invaded them. I'm sure the president would be proud of you comrade.
There’s no need to throw “comrade” or similar around for pointing out objective facts.

Similarly anyone should be allowed to suggest a negotiated settlement without being called “appeasers”. What Russia may (or may not) do in 5, 10, or more years ignores the ability to resource Ukraine (or neighbouring countries) or develop their armed forces or the United States to develop a slush fund to dip into (like seemingly Israel has).

This can be done without Zelensky getting the begging bowl out for Europe to deport men aged 18-60, or the newly eligible for conscription HIV positive, cancer patients and people with learning difficulties. I’m sure everyone appreciates why, as Ukraine retreats despite a “10 to 1” kill ratio I’m sceptical about the figures given by Ukraine.

If Ukraine in NATO (ha ha) is the answer then defining a “Ukraine” now at 80% of 2022 borders is surely advantageous than spending 1, 2, 3 more years battling on retreating front lines.

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