UK Timeline : Doctor Who

Return confirmed for SATURDAY 25 November.

https://metro.co.uk/2023/10/25/docto...nnant-19721454

I think that was pretty much a given already, considering its original air date was Nov 23rd.

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A new (well, updated) theme tune as well.

https://twitter.com/bbcdoctorwho/sta...28794630717704

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Paul

I think that was pretty much a given already, considering its original air date was Nov 23rd.

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A new (well, updated) theme tune as well.

https://twitter.com/bbcdoctorwho/sta...28794630717704

Not bad, but the 1963 version was better.

First one i watched in a long while, pretty good

[Stephen]

Really enjoyed it and loved the take on the Star Beast. Was such a great comic.

New TARDIS interior is gorgeous.

Do Disney ONLY have the international distribution rights or do they have a hand in production as well? I heard the production values would go up as a result of the Disney deal but have since heard Disney have nothing to do with the making of the show.

Or was it a precondition of the distribution deal that 'x' amount of the money has to go to improve production values?

Originally Posted by Damien

Do Disney ONLY have the international distribution rights or do they have a hand in production as well? I heard the production values would go up as a result of the Disney deal but have since heard Disney have nothing to do with the making of the show.

Or was it a precondition of the distribution deal that 'x' amount of the money has to go to improve production values?

The final tile on the end credits looks like this:



Which sort of implies Disney is acknowledged as having a role in the commissioning of the series rather than simply being a buyer of the distribution rights. Whatever the strict legal arrangement I think it’s inconceivable that they would put that much money into it and not expect to see it being used in the production.

And it is - the FX budget on yesterday’s episode is reported to have been equivalent to an entire season’s FX budget from the last time Tennant was the Doctor.

Also, FX has moved in in the last 13 years, in reduction in cost and ease of production

[Stephen]

They have international distribution rights and have contributed toward the budget
However they have no say in the shows content

I love the new clean/white Tardis look.

On the whole I enjoyed this episode/special.
Certainly far more than the previous few seasons.
I did cringe at the blatent woke dig near the end, but it didnt spoil it overall. 6/10.

[Pierre]

I have it recorded, but not watched it yet as all the chatter i have heard has said that it pushes the pro-noun police at you.

but as it's Tennant, I may still watch it.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Pierre

I have it recorded, but not watched it yet as all the chatter i have heard has said that it pushes the pro-noun police at you.

but as it's Tennant, I may still watch it.

Personally I didn't think anything was pushed at you. It was just there as part of the story. Some people are just scared of topics that are current and fairly important.

Originally Posted by Stephen

Personally I didn't think anything was pushed at you. It was just there as part of the story. Some people are just scared of topics that are current and fairly important.

They did, actually. In Donna’s mum’s house, talking to the Meep, the Doctor addresses Meep as ‘he’ and gets a short sharp rebuke from Rose for the 21st century ‘crime’ of assuming someone’s gender. There then follows what can only be described as a template for making introductions and pronoun discovery as preferred by the trans lobby. If you watch the companion show on BBC3 (can’t remember what it’s called now, used to be Doctor Who Confidential years ago) there is a whole segment interviewing RTD and the actor playing Rose in which RTD states quite openly that his aim in doing this story with this character is to ‘normalise’ the trans lobby’s world view in public discourse.

Thankfully the episode is so good it’s possible to just roll your eyes at that segment and enjoy the rest of it for what it is - the best show-runner of the modern era, with the best Doctor/companion combination of the modern era, with a Disney-sized budget and an hour long running time.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Personally I didn't think anything was pushed at you. It was just there as part of the story. Some people are just scared of topics that are current and fairly important.

I think it was deliberate to make the swivel eyed loons heads explode, as well as being good fun. It succeeded in both

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Chris

They did, actually. In Donna’s mum’s house, talking to the Meep, the Doctor addresses Meep as ‘he’ and gets a short sharp rebuke from Rose for the 21st century ‘crime’ of assuming someone’s gender. There then follows what can only be described as a template for making introductions and pronoun discovery as preferred by the trans lobby. If you watch the companion show on BBC3 (can’t remember what it’s called now, used to be Doctor Who Confidential years ago) there is a whole segment interviewing RTD and the actor playing Rose in which RTD states quite openly that his aim in doing this story with this character is to ‘normalise’ the trans lobby’s world view in public discourse.

Thankfully the episode is so good it’s possible to just roll your eyes at that segment and enjoy the rest of it for what it is - the best show-runner of the modern era, with the best Doctor/companion combination of the modern era, with a Disney-sized budget and an hour long running time.

Maybe I'm just ok with things and can accept that people have different thoughts and feeling and it's just a bit of respect to treat someone how they expect or wish to be addressed.

I mean if your name was Simon and people kept calling you Frank I'm sure you get pretty annoyed and fed up. This is similar to that. Referring to someone as them/they if they want shouldn't be a big deal.

So in my eyes nothing is forced forced on you or shoved in your face. It just part of the story talking about issues that trans people face everyday. If people have issues with that then surely that's their mindset that's the problem and not what the show is making reference to.