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Old 03-05-2023, 10:03   #1981
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Broadcast TV will not be supported going forward, You will not get Broadcast TV over a stream box.

For all new VM FTTP (and I mean XGSPON not RFoG) only TV via a stream box will be supported.

As VM turns off it's HFC Network and converts to XGSPON, the ability to receive broadcast will disappear.

Timescales are sketchy but within 10 years.

I can't speak for Sky, but they are on the same pathway.

It's the way the industry is going.
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What do you mean by broadcast TV?
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Old 03-05-2023, 11:29   #1983
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Broadcast TV will not be supported going forward, You will not get Broadcast TV over a stream box.

For all new VM FTTP (and I mean XGSPON not RFoG) only TV via a stream box will be supported.

As VM turns off it's HFC Network and converts to XGSPON, the ability to receive broadcast will disappear.

Timescales are sketchy but within 10 years.

I can't speak for Sky, but they are on the same pathway.

It's the way the industry is going.
Thank you, Pierre. They know this, but they have to play out this silly game every time the subject is mentioned.

I think I’ll pursue this elsewhere in future, where people can have a sensible conversation without having to tolerate wind-up merchants.

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What do you mean by broadcast TV?
Broadcast TV received through the aerial from your local transmitter.
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Broadcast TV received through the aerial from your local transmitter.
Confused me because you broadcast over the internet too by definition
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Confused me because you broadcast over the internet too by definition
OB’s definitions change with the time of day. You’re not alone in finding it hard to follow exactly what he’s talking about at any given moment.
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Thank you, Pierre. They know this, but they have to play out this silly game every time the subject is mentioned.

I think I’ll pursue this elsewhere in future, where people can have a sensible conversation without having to tolerate wind-up merchants.

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What do you mean by broadcast TV?

Broadcast TV received through the aerial from your local transmitter.
Strange - a couple of hours ago you posted

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True. However, I don’t see how that is relevant when all the broadcasters are being pointed in the direction of broadcast by IP.

In fact, the BBC has now been instructed by OFCOM to plan for just that, as I reported in an earlier post.

And the problems relating to electricity supply that Chris reported a few years ago have been overcome already, haven’t they?

I guess if you lack the imagination, it is pointless discussing the future with you guys, although I think a lot of forum members would love to discuss it if there was less hostility and cynicism on here to any discussion on the subject of what the future may have in store.

Such a pity.
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Disney+ not going well for Disney?

‘Dancing With The Stars’ to Move Back To ABC From Disney+

https://deadline.com/2023/05/dancing...bc-1235353662/
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Disney+ not going well for Disney?

‘Dancing With The Stars’ to Move Back To ABC From Disney+

https://deadline.com/2023/05/dancing...bc-1235353662/
Effectively undoing Bob Chapek move , would probably made more sense to move to Hulu in the US anyway.
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Disney+ not going well for Disney?

‘Dancing With The Stars’ to Move Back To ABC From Disney+

https://deadline.com/2023/05/dancing...bc-1235353662/
I think the issue is that even in the US many people will not subscribe just for crap.

A lot of people watch a lot of rubbish on BBC and ITV because it is top of the list and doesn't cost extra.

Move Ant & Dec to ITVX Premium and most people will not follow.
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I think the issue is that even in the US many people will not subscribe just for crap.

A lot of people watch a lot of rubbish on BBC and ITV because it is top of the list and doesn't cost extra.

Move Ant & Dec to ITVX Premium and most people will not follow.
But some insist online is the future
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Confused me because you broadcast over the internet too by definition
I know, but that’s how they are referring to it in the media. Same as linear TV is commonly the label attached to the scheduled programming channels you receive, but the pedants want to muddy the waters by constantly drawing attention to the technical terminology.
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Broadcast TV received through the aerial from your local transmitter.
In CATV world DTV Broadcast signals are sent across Virgin Media's Network from their centre in Langley to your 360 box and you can access the channels through the EPG on your box.

Likewise Sky, via your dish.

Eventually, these will end.

Similarly, STBs with Hard Drives will go the same way as VHS & DVD
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You are confusing premium streamers with the free ones.
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Confused me because you broadcast over the internet too by definition
No, broadcast is a one way transfer of signals from say a Transmitter, satellite or other centralised point, to many receivers.

Streaming is a one to one, two way connection.

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linear TV is commonly the label attached to the scheduled programming channels you receive
Linear TV/Scheduled programming, however you want to frame it. Will ultimately wither away. Don't know the time scales but it is the natural progression.
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I know, but that’s how they are referring to it in the media. Same as linear TV is commonly the label attached to the scheduled programming channels you receive, but the pedants want to muddy the waters by constantly drawing attention to the technical terminology.
No, OB. People are asking you to clarify your definitions because you insist upon moving the goalposts.
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