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[RichardCoulter]

I'd give your months notice*. You can always rescind it if the live sport returns or resubscribe immediately if it's after the notice period (I doubt football will return on 3/4/20).

* I'm expecting some people will argue that they don't need to give a months notice as the service that they signed up to and are paying for has fundamentally changed.

When Virgin Media lost the UKTV channels, they tried to use their general 'Channels may be removed at any time' get out clause, but some successfully argued that the change was to such an extent that the service had materially changed and amounted to a breach of contract.

[denphone]

There is no chance in my view of football returning on the 3rd of April.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by denphone

There is no chance in my view of football returning on the 3rd of April.

None.

[Mad Max]

Originally Posted by jfman

None.

Totally agree, the season will end up null and void!

[denphone]

BT Sport not offering refunds to customers despite football suspension.

https://www.theguardian.com/football...all-suspension

https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/11168...er_money_daily

Sources at the broadcaster have made it clear that the company is not able to refund subscribers for the loss of the live sports BT Sport has bought up at great expense to attract them. In a statement, a BT spokesman said.

[buckeye]

Originally Posted by denphone

BT Sport not offering refunds to customers despite football suspension.

https://www.theguardian.com/football...all-suspension

https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/11168...er_money_daily

I beg to differ.
Firstly I should say that public health is paramount and sports or TV subscriptions pale into insignificance in the grand scheme of these unprecedented times.
However I am currently out of contract with VM and am only paying them for broadband at the moment because I expect to be moving away at some point this year and don't know if I will be moving to a VM area.
I have been subscribing to the standalone BT Sports subscription for the last 3 months because of this and my sub renewed today.
I phoned BT to see if there is any compensation or refund available as there is going to be nothing to watch on the service for at least the next month and was pleasantly surprised after several moments of being put on hold to be told they will refund todays subscription and cancel my service and that when the sports they show recover I can re-subscribe on the same account.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by denphone

BT Sport not offering refunds to customers despite football suspension.

https://www.theguardian.com/football...all-suspension

https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/11168...er_money_daily

In their defence, both Sky and BT are still liable to the Premier League and UEFA for sizeable installments until such times as the games are postponed.

To go out their way and hand back hundreds of millions to subscribers just isn't viable. Customers out of contract might get the odd success story but they'll have to chase it.

[Itshim]

Surely if they show repeats of ANY sport they are a sports channel.the fact that a customer signed up to watch a sport no longer being shown is of no concern to them.So your choices are cancel under the terms of your contract . Or live with it . As I still get premier sports of nothing ( misleading advertising told you guys to complain) I will sit tight

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by denphone

There is no chance in my view of football returning on the 3rd of April.

You are being very optimistic if you think football will be returning on 3 April. The virus will not have even reached its peak by then.

The football authorities have got this around their necks. What they have done is contrary to the advice of the government's own medical experts and they have just gone ahead and done their own thing. They should have waited.

I don't think the football will be back until May at least.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

You are being very optimistic if you think football will be returning on 3 April. The virus will not have even reached its peak by then.

The football authorities have got this around their necks. What they have done is contrary to the advice of the government's own medical experts and they have just gone ahead and done their own thing. They should have waited.

I don't think the football will be back until May at least.

You did read my answer to someone elses post did you not OB as l made it very clear in my answer that there is no chance of a resumption to football on the 3rd of April.

Listening to a respected football journalist on SSN he thinks after talking to the important people in the game the season is over OB.

[Raider999]

Originally Posted by Mad Max

Totally agree, the season will end up null and void!

If the sports seasons are not finished, which they may well not be, then the league tables as currently standing should be the final result and used to decide championships, euro qualifications, promotions and relegations.

The only exception should be outstanding games a team might have to equal the number of games the rest of the division has played (assuming this will make any difference to either teams league status next season)

Most leagues are well over 80% completed - to say all those games are meaningless is a ridiculous argument, or clutching at straws by supporters of teams not wanting to be relegated?

[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

You are being very optimistic if you think football will be returning on 3 April. The virus will not have even reached its peak by then.

The football authorities have got this around their necks. What they have done is contrary to the advice of the government's own medical experts and they have just gone ahead and done their own thing. They should have waited.

I don't think the football will be back until May at least.

Can you point me to the Government advice where it recommends employers continue to expose their employees to people who have contracted coronavirus, are suspected to have coronavirus or have contact with third parties with known contact with an individual confirmed to have coronavirus?

You are confusing the public gathering advice with established health and safety at work law. While the Government advice appears to pretend everything is fine, it doesn't create any indemnity for employers not taking reasonable steps to the health and safety of their employees.

Only yesterday the Premier League were happy to go ahead, with significant matchday revenues at stake and (if abandoning this season altogether) television revenue, until the Arsenal manager was confirmed to have the virus - with the suspicion being he caught it in a game on February 27th - as the owner of that team has the virus. When this became a risk to their employees they decided it was best to limit exposure.

No employer could reasonably put their employees on a field against Arsenal, and whoever Arsenal played last week, and claim they took all reasonable steps to protect their employees.

Equally I'm sure none of these clubs would want a player to die as a result, perhaps still with instalments to pay to his previous club outstanding and compensation to a widow. Insurers would almost certainly not pay out.

[telegramsam]

I personally don't believe the season should a) be null and void or b) simply end as it stands. There's be all kinds of legal action flying around both from teams relegated and teams just missing out on promotion. The same would be if the season was made null and void. The only fair and obvious answer is to play all the remaining fixtures as soon as it's possible.

[spiderplant]

Originally Posted by telegramsam

The only fair and obvious answer is to play all the remaining fixtures as soon as it's possible.

But that might not be until next season should have started.

[telegramsam]

Originally Posted by spiderplant

But that might not be until next season should have started.

True but then we delay the start of next season and scrap the cup games . It would be tight but I think doable.