Police to get tough on internet trolls.

[GrimUpNorth]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

The vast majority of people aren't armed robbers, but legislation is in place to deal with the minority who are.

Just think how much easier It'd make it for the police to catch them if they changed the law to make it a legal requirement for your friendly neighbourhood gangsters to register their identities before putting their balaclavas on. Oh wait, they'd just find a way round it and use a false ID like your run of the mill nonce, racist, bully or terrorist will do.

Stupid proposal thought up by people who don't seem to have a clue.

[Carth]

Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth

Just think how much easier It'd make it for the police to catch them if they changed the law to make it a legal requirement for your friendly neighbourhood gangsters to register their identities before putting their balaclavas on. Oh wait, they'd just find a way round it and use a false ID like your run of the mill nonce, racist, bully or terrorist will do.

Stupid proposal thought up by people who don't seem to have a clue.

[Blackshep]

That you can't see or won't recognise the damage this legislation if passed will do is concerning and as I've said many times it absolutely will not provide the security you think it will that's not opinion Richard it's fact. I'm not the most ICT savvy person but I'm fortunate to work with people that are and one of them demonstrated how they could continue doing everything this legislation purports to stop in less then five minutes with zero chance of being individually identified.

As other's have said safety on the internet is more to do with education then legislation that point was also made by another techie saying one of the most popular passwords is !123qwerty, I have no way of knowing if it's correct but I trust the person who told me. Your looking for legislation to replace personal responsibility and individual effort and it will fail at that as well it is never a good idea to allow government to decide what can and can't be said because even if you trust the government now what about 5,10 or 15 years down the line.

You really need to view this from outside of your norm Richard and see the power of misuse this creates.

[RichardCoulter]

Interview with Nadine Dorries in the first segment of this programme. She is asked about the forthcoming legislation and if this will affect free speech, journalists etc: Also covers romance fraud, scam adverts, exposing children to suicide sites, pornography etc.

https://www.itv.com/hub/this-morning/2a6292a0799

[RichardCoulter]

Another excellent programme from The Moral Maze, Cleaning The Internet is a balanced discussion between those who support Government plans to try and make the internet a kinder and safer place to be and those who feel that this could impact upon free speech.

Interesting points were made by both sides.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0015lr7

[Mad Max]

ffs give it a rest....

[Itshim]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Another excellent programme from The Moral Maze, Cleaning The Internet is a balanced discussion between those who support Government plans to try and make the internet a kinder and safer place to be and those who feel that this could impact upon free speech.

Interesting points were made by both sides.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0015lr7

Nanny state . If you don't like it , don't read it . Fail to understand why people have to have their hand held , spoon fed, look after yourself stop expecting others to worry about " your" feelings. Really fed up hearing about people's mental state. Lots of phases come to mind ,however no doubt it would upset the snowflakes

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Mad Max

ffs give it a rest....

Agreed.

Anyone know if there is a way to block a user and not see there posts even if someone quotes them ?

[joglynne]

Originally Posted by Sirius

Agreed.

Anyone know if there is a way to block a user and not see there posts even if someone quotes them ?

Nope, been trying to block someone's posts for a long time. Unfortunately when he gets quoted up pops the posts that invariably wind me up.

I end up just trying to ignore him and imagine I'm playing Spank the Monkey.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Itshim

Nanny state . If you don't like it , don't read it . Fail to understand why people have to have their hand held , spoon fed, look after yourself stop expecting others to worry about " your" feelings. Really fed up hearing about people's mental state. Lots of phases come to mind ,however no doubt it would upset the snowflakes

The problem with this is that one often doesn’t know that something is offensive until one has read it!

The answer to someone who is making offensive comments is to deal with them appropriately and not expect those on the receiving end to take steps to avoid it.

Do you think that elderly & neuro diverse people who get scammed are 'snowflakes'?

Do you think that those with severe depression who are actually encouraged to take their own lives are/were snowflakes?

Do you think that children who are groomed, blackmailed or threatened by paedophiles are 'snowfkakes'?

This legislation aims to deal with a plethora of inappropriate online behaviour.

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Originally Posted by Sirius

Agreed.

Anyone know if there is a way to block a user and not see there posts even if someone quotes them ?

Just avoid entering any thread where the subject matter doesn't interest you, simple really.

There are many threads in here where I have absolutely no interest in what's being discussed, but I don't enter them to whine about what they are talking about, simply because the subject matter doesn't interest me personally. I just don't go into them and hope that they have an enjoyable and productive discussion.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by joglynne

I end up just trying to ignore him and imagine I'm playing Spank the Monkey.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

The answer to someone who is making offensive comments is to deal with them appropriately and not expect those on the receiving end to take steps to avoid it.

No it isnt. First of all 'offensive' is completely subjective.

Anyone can claim to be offended (and often do) just becasue they dont agree with something, or even just to try and get other people into trouble.

People have been doing it on this very forum for years.

You (and everyone) are also responsible for taking your own steps to avoid such comments, not expecting others to do it all for you (or even agree with you that something is 'offensive').

[GrimUpNorth]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

The problem with this is that one often doesn’t know that something is offensive until one has read it!

The answer to someone who is making offensive comments is to deal with them appropriately and not expect those on the receiving end to take steps to avoid it.

Do you think that elderly & neuro diverse people who get scammed are 'snowflakes'?

Do you think that those with severe depression who are actually encouraged to take their own lives are/were snowflakes?

Do you think that children who are groomed, blackmailed or threatened by paedophiles are 'snowfkakes'?

This legislation aims to deal with a plethora of inappropriate online behaviour.

[SIZE=1]---------- Post added at 19:54 ----------



Just avoid entering any thread where the subject matter doesn't interest you, simple really.

There are many threads in here where I have absolutely no interest in what's being discussed, but I don't enter them to whine about what they are talking about, simply because the subject matter doesn't interest me personally. I just don't go into them and hope that they have an enjoyable and productive discussion.

You're funny Richard, at start of the post your complaining that you don't know if something's offensive until you read it, then tell people not to enter a thread based on the subject matter incase they don't like what they're reading.

[Mad Max]

Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth

You're funny Richard, at start of the post your complaining that you don't know if something's offensive until you read it, then tell people not to enter a thread based on the subject matter incase they don't like what they're reading.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

The problem with this is that one often doesn’t know that something is offensive until one has read it!

The answer to someone who is making offensive comments is to deal with them appropriately and not expect those on the receiving end to take steps to avoid it.

Do you think that elderly & neuro diverse people who get scammed are 'snowflakes'?

Do you think that those with severe depression who are actually encouraged to take their own lives are/were snowflakes?

Do you think that children who are groomed, blackmailed or threatened by paedophiles are 'snowfkakes'?

This legislation aims to deal with a plethora of inappropriate online behaviour.

[SIZE=1]---------- Post added at 19:54 ----------



Just avoid entering any thread where the subject matter doesn't interest you, simple really.

There are many threads in here where I have absolutely no interest in what's being discussed, but I don't enter them to whine about what they are talking about, simply because the subject matter doesn't interest me personally. I just don't go into them and hope that they have an enjoyable and productive discussion.

No, I'm sorry Richard, but this is completely wrong. If you don't like what you start reading, just move on and ignore it.

This proposal will eventually destroy free speech. You have to ensure that your remedies for the illness in society doesn't kill everyone in the process.

The Communists in our world will simply love this legislation. It will provoke quite a reaction, so be careful what you wish for!