01-05-2023, 18:44
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Re: Charlie Farley
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
I knew what I was doing with my reference to the Bible.
Charlie is head of the CoE and an adulterer.
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Do you mean just like the Founder of the CoE?
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01-05-2023, 19:10
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Re: Charlie Farley
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Originally Posted by Jaymoss
But then there is Matthew 5 the good old sermon on the mount, isn't there that isn't quite as forgiving or tame
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‘Judge not’ is also from the Sermon on the Mount.
I’m not saying Jesus doesn’t expect the lives of his followers to be transformed, rather I’m saying that to point to one sinful act, no matter how egregious, and to use it to declare someone unfit for future office or responsibility, is to completely, comically, fail to grasp how that process of transformation is supposed to work.
Elsewhere, the apostle John wrote, “If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.”
This is the part Seph seems to be ignorant of. Anyone can quote a commandment. Christian life, however, is about discipleship, relationship, and a life progressively transformed. It is not a scorecard against a set of rules (and actually, the Old Testament faith of ancient Israel wasn’t that either. At no time did baldly quoting from Exodus settle anything).
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01-05-2023, 19:20
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Re: Charlie Farley
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Originally Posted by Hugh
Do you mean just like the Founder of the CoE?
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Head of the Church of England.
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01-05-2023, 19:28
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Re: Charlie Farley
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‘Judge not’ is also from the Sermon on the Mount.
I’m not saying Jesus doesn’t expect the lives of his followers to be transformed, rather I’m saying that to point to one sinful act, no matter how egregious, and to use it to declare someone unfit for future office or responsibility, is to completely, comically, fail to grasp how that process of transformation is supposed to work.
Elsewhere, the apostle John wrote, “If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.”
This is the part Seph seems to be ignorant of. Anyone can quote a commandment. Christian life, however, is about discipleship, relationship, and a life progressively transformed. It is not a scorecard against a set of rules (and actually, the Old Testament faith of ancient Israel wasn’t that either. At no time did baldly quoting from Exodus settle anything).
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I do agree with you. You only have to look at what sins David committed and he was still blessed.
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
Head of the Church of England.
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Henry VIII is the founder and he made a mockery of marriage
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01-05-2023, 19:32
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Re: Charlie Farley
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Originally Posted by Jaymoss
I do agree with you. You only have to look at what sins David committed and he was still blessed.
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Henry VIII is the founder and he made a mockery of marriage
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Well, that's alright, then.
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01-05-2023, 19:34
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Re: Charlie Farley
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Head of the Church of England.
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Just like the Founder of the CoE…
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01-05-2023, 19:34
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Re: Charlie Farley
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Well, that's alright, then.
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I can see both sides but if I was to express a preference I would have no monarchy at all and if pressed I would rather Charlie stood down and William took his place.
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01-05-2023, 19:38
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Re: Charlie Farley
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Having this week returned from a few weeks in Oz, that just about sums up their attitude to that idiot.
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Where in Oz?
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01-05-2023, 19:42
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Re: Charlie Farley
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Originally Posted by Ms NTL
Where in Oz?
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Canberra.
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01-05-2023, 22:04
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Re: Charlie Farley
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Adultery - sexual intercourse between a married person and someone other than that person's current spouse.
On that note, how is John Redwood?
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Are you referring to Nikki Page or Susan Precious? If any nukie took place, is most likely after the separation/divorce.
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01-05-2023, 22:23
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Re: Charlie Farley
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Are you referring to Nikki Page or Susan Precious? If any nukie took place, is most likely after the separation/divorce.
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Nikki Page - divorce happened February 2004, Redwood and Page (officially) got together June 2003 (a week after he took a mortgage out on Page’s house.
It’s still adultery until the divorce goes through…
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01-05-2023, 22:34
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Re: Charlie Farley
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Originally Posted by Hugh
Nikki Page - divorce happened February 2004, Redwood and Page (officially) got together June 2003 (a week after he took a mortgage out on Page’s house.
It’s still adultery until the divorce goes through…
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Nothing whatsoever to do with Charlie Farley. But at least it's kept Hugh busy researching this crap.
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01-05-2023, 22:34
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Re: Charlie Farley
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Originally Posted by Hugh
Nikki Page - divorce happened February 2004, Redwood and Page (officially) got together June 2003 (a week after he took a mortgage out on Page’s house.
It’s still adultery until the divorce goes through…
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Thanks Hughatha!
But the wife had gone bonkers for 2-3 years before that. They were separated.
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01-05-2023, 23:48
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Re: Charlie Farley
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Originally Posted by Jaymoss
Well if he had not married her to spawn the next generation or committed adultery later then it would be highly unlikely that she would have died in a car crash in Paris and that is without the conspiracy theories about her death being caused deliberately that I do actually believe
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
What Jaymoss said.
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LOL. Have you read what you just posted, you sound nuts.
Of course, it was nothing at all to do with the press chasing her then (or the fact she no seat belt on).
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02-05-2023, 08:47
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Re: Charlie Farley
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Nothing whatsoever to do with Charlie Farley. But at least it's kept Hugh busy researching this crap.
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But it has to do with your adultery comment…
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