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Old 09-11-2022, 16:59   #16
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Re: U.S Midterms

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They were worried all those dead voters would forget to vote for them again
I know - it's terrible when that happens...

https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...ways-vote-dem/

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Here are some examples:

• Nevada: In the aftermath of Biden’s roughly 34,000-vote win over Trump in Nevada, Donald Kirk Hartle, a Republican, told KLAS-TV that he was "surprised" to see that his wife cast a ballot "because she passed away three years ago. That is pretty sickening to me, to be honest with you."

While Hartle’s story gained attention from GOP leaders and pundits who were questioning the results of the state’s presidential vote, the tale eventually fell apart, as investigators concluded that Hartle himself had cast the fraudulent ballot.

Hartle pleaded guilty to one count of voting more than once in an election, receiving a sentence of probation and a $2,000 fine.

• Pennsylvania: Bruce Bartman from Marple voted on behalf of his late mother in the 2020 presidential election. He pleaded guilty to two counts of perjury and one count of unlawful voting and was sentenced to five years of probation.

Bartman said his illegal vote was cast for Donald Trump, The Associated Press reported. He also registered his late mother-in-law but did not secure an absentee ballot for her.

Bartman apologized, telling the court, "I was isolated last year in lockdown. I listened to too much propaganda and made a stupid mistake."

Meanwhile, in August 2021, a man from the Wilkes-Barre area pleaded guilty to a third-degree misdemeanor — not for voting fraudulently but for filing an absentee ballot application in the name of his late mother. The application cited a need to vote absentee because the man’s mother was purportedly "visiting great grandkids Oct. 24-Nov. 10."

The defendant, Robert Richard Lynn, was a registered Republican, the Times-Leader newspaper reported, citing state records. He was sentenced to six months of probation and 40 hours of community service.

• Florida: In 2020, voter Larry Wiggins of Manatee County tried to "test" the system by requesting a ballot for his late wife. "I heard so much about ballots being sent in and people just having found them in different places," Wiggins told WFLA-TV. "I feel like I haven’t done anything wrong." He told the Tampa station, "I said, Well, let me just send it in and see what’s going to happen, to see if they’re actually going to send a ballot for her to vote."

The request was flagged by the local elections office when it went through standard identity checks, so Wiggins did not receive a ballot. Instead, his case received a criminal referral. He pleaded no contest and was sentenced to 24 months of probation and 100 hours of community service.

Wiggins told WFLA that he was a Democrat who supported Trump.

Arizona: Tracey Kay McKee of Phoenix cast her late mother’s ballot in the 2020 general election. She was sentenced to two years of probation, fines and community service.

Both McKee and her recently deceased mother were registered Republicans, the Associated Press reported. In court, prosecutors noted that McKee railed against absentee voting during an interview with investigators in which she denied casting the ballot herself, saying, "I don’t believe that this was a fair election. I do believe there was a lot of voter fraud."

• Colorado: In 2017, a woman from Golden pleaded guilty to voting twice for her late father. Toni Lee Newbill had cast ballots in the 2013 general election and the 2016 Republican primary.
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Old 09-11-2022, 20:17   #17
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DeSantis has overtaken Trump as the favourite for the Republican nomination on some markets after last night's results. Flordia really was massive for the Republicans, the kind of result they wanted elsewhere. Might Trump's spell be broken on the party?
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Pennsylvania voters elect ‘already dead’ Democrat state representative in midterm

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Pennsylvania voters elect ‘already dead’ Democrat state representative in midterm

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Probably more coherent than Biden/Trump* (delete according to preference).
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Thankfully it seems this time the election fraud accusations haven't really taken off. People have conceded when they've lost, there haven't been mass protests. Republicans are mostly arguing amongst themselves for the results rather than assuming it's rigged.

Suggestions that the Republicans are trying to stop Trump announcing he'll run next week: https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ncement-delay/

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Thankfully it seems this time the election fraud accusations haven't really taken off. People have conceded when they've lost, there haven't been mass protests. Republicans are mostly arguing amongst themselves for the results rather than assuming it's rigged.

Suggestions that the Republicans are trying to stop Trump announcing he'll run next week: https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ncement-delay/
He'll run, even if it's the 'Trump Party, ' he's bigger than the Republicans. All good news for the Democrats.
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Democrats retain the Senate so that hasn't changed. Looks like the Republicans will get a small majority in the House.
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Democrats retain the Senate so that hasn't changed. Looks like the Republicans will get a small majority in the House.
Does it look like that?
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Does it look like that?
Yes, they're ahead in enough races to win the House which is what everyone is expecting (and expected). It's just likely to be in the single digits rather than the 20/30+ majority they expected.

This is the best a defending party has done in the midterms since the Republicans in 2002 and they had a popular President on the back of 9/11, not Biden who is very unpopular and massive inflation.
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Yes, they're ahead in enough races to win the House which is what everyone is expecting (and expected). It's just likely to be in the single digits rather than the 20/30+ majority they expected.

This is the best a defending party has done in the midterms since the Republicans in 2002 and they had a popular President on the back of 9/11, not Biden who is very unpopular and massive inflation.
I think that’s why he’s got doubts

The NBC News projection for uncalled races takes it to R219-D216, with a margin of error of +/-4.
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Yeah, so they'll need all the close races to break to the Democrats for a 1 seat Dem majority. It's not likely.
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Yes, they're ahead in enough races to win the House which is what everyone is expecting (and expected). It's just likely to be in the single digits rather than the 20/30+ majority they expected.

This is the best a defending party has done in the midterms since the Republicans in 2002 and they had a popular President on the back of 9/11, not Biden who is very unpopular and massive inflation.
Regardless-Important thing to note is, that once GOP win the House, they’ll kill the Jan 6th investigation committee dead in its tracks.
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Regardless-Important thing to note is, that once GOP win the House, they’ll kill the Jan 6th investigation committee dead in its tracks.
Probably although not sure that'll be wise since their allegiance to Trump is one of the explanations given for their poor performance. Most Americans want the storming of the Capitol investigated. They'll also have wafer-thin margins, which will mean moderate Republicans in Democrat-friendly areas will need to vote to kill it.

Incidentally, some key races went Republican last night, confirming a Republican majority.
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Probably although not sure that'll be wise since their allegiance to Trump is one of the explanations given for their poor performance. Most Americans want the storming of the Capitol investigated. They'll also have wafer-thin margins, which will mean moderate Republicans in Democrat-friendly areas will need to vote to kill it.

Incidentally, some key races went Republican last night, confirming a Republican majority.
The Republicans need 7 more confirmed wins to have a majority.

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Sorry should have said 'all but' confirming. I.E They look certain now.
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