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Old 25-10-2022, 14:08   #61
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Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister

Will be interesting to see what happens to the hike in NI. Sunak planned it, Kwarteng decided not to proceed with it, Truss boasted in her leaving speech of ditching it.

I won't expect to see 3% of GDP spent on defence.

But at least Sunak won't need Party donors to fund any redecoration costs.
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Whether he’s that man, we shall soon find out.



Interesting opinion you have there young man, i feel sure it will change with experience.
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Old 25-10-2022, 15:50   #64
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I wonder if his skin colour/ethnicity/religion will be a help or a hindering come election time.

It may help to attract voters of a similar background as well as the PC/woke types.

It may hinder as any racist Conservative voters may refuse to vote for him.

Maybe the two will balance each other out??
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"PC/woke types"

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Richard, the Daily Mail/Express/Telegraph/GB News called - they’d like their dog whistle back…
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My salient point is that those who define themselves as Politically Correct or Woke may vote for him simply because of his ethnicity etc.

Conversely,, there's bound to be others who wouldn't vote for him for the very same reason.

It will be interesting to see if his minority group status will be a help, a hinderence or if it won't make any difference, either because the two opposing groups cancel each other out or because we have now reached a point where most people don't take such things into account when choosing an elected representative.

I personally couldn't cate less about it; I have enough reasons to dislike him without looking for any more!
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My salient point is that those who define themselves as Politically Correct or Woke may vote for him simply because of his ethnicity etc.

Conversely,, there's bound to be others who wouldn't vote for him for the very same reason.

It will be interesting to see if his minority group status will be a help, a hinderence or if it won't make any difference, either because the two opposing groups cancel each other out or because we have now reached a point where most people don't take such things into account when choosing an elected representative.

I personally couldn't cate less about it; I have enough reasons to dislike him without looking for any more!

Interesting that you only bring this up for the current prime minister? Why would you not bring for any of his predecessors ?
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My salient point is that those who define themselves as Politically Correct or Woke may vote for him simply because of his ethnicity etc.
There's nothing politically correct about voting Conservative regardless of the colour of the leader.
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My salient point is that those who define themselves as Politically Correct or Woke may vote for him simply because of his ethnicity etc.

Conversely,, there's bound to be others who wouldn't vote for him for the very same reason.

It will be interesting to see if his minority group status will be a help, a hinderence or if it won't make any difference, either because the two opposing groups cancel each other out or because we have now reached a point where most people don't take such things into account when choosing an elected representative.

I personally couldn't cate less about it; I have enough reasons to dislike him without looking for any more!
Very few people define themselves as "Politically Correct or Woke" - it is usually used as a derogatory label by those on the right…

Can I ask why you didn’t ask the same question about people potentially voting for Liz Truss?
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Very few people define themselves as "Politically Correct or Woke" - it is usually used as a derogatory label by those on the right…

Can I ask why you didn’t ask the same question about people potentially voting for Liz Truss?
I assume that she is British white, if i'm correct the question wouldn't arise.

Or are you referring to her gender?
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I assume that she is British white, if i'm correct the question wouldn't arise.

Or are you referring to her gender?
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These days I doubt that many people would have refrained from voting for her because she was a woman.

She was the third female PM, but he is the first PM of colour.

The comments about his ethnicity are starting already. I've just seen a post where the Downing Street cat is seen walking away with a suitcase saying "I'm off, I don't fancy ending up in a curry".
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These days I doubt that many people would have refrained from voting for her because she was a woman.

She was the third female PM, but he is the first PM of colour.

The comments about his ethnicity are starting already. I've just seen a post where the Downing Street cat is seen walking away with a suitcase saying "I'm off, I don't fancy ending up in a curry".
Racists might not vote for him but there's no evidence that the "PC/Woke" brigade would proactively seek out voting for him regardless of his policies.
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Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister

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These days I doubt that many people would have refrained from voting for her because she was a woman.

She was the third female PM, but he is the first PM of colour.

The comments about his ethnicity are starting already. I've just seen a post where the Downing Street cat is seen walking away with a suitcase saying "I'm off, I don't fancy ending up in a curry".
Another criterion might be the penis size

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/6161691.stm

Hancock (apologies for the pun) had an affair, Truss had an affair, BoJo has created 5-7 kids so far, May none, Major-Currie nukie etc. Perhaps, this is something that has to disected (aouuch) as skin colour is not important but size might be more important.

Skin colour is not important. Penis size is equally unimportant
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There's nothing politically correct about voting Conservative regardless of the colour of the leader.
Excellent use of words. I will, of course, keep voting Conservative.


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Another criterion might be the penis size

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/6161691.stm

Hancock (apologies for the pun) had an affair, Truss had an affair, BoJo has created 5-7 kids so far, May none, Major-Currie nukie etc. Perhaps, this is something that has to disected (aouuch) as skin colour is not important but size might be more important.

Skin colour is not important. Penis size is equally unimportant
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